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Stephen Mann
I need to put a box onscreen- best method?
on Oct 20, 2016 at 3:27:13 pm

I need to highlight areas in a tutorial that I am editing, and I am using the cookie cutter to do this:




My problem is that I can't change the dimensions of the rectangle, so I resort to the Track Motion to accomplish this, but the border thickness is no longer correct:



Can anyone suggest an easier way to accomplish this?
TIA, Steve

Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
http://www.mmdv.com


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Graham Bernard
Re: I need to put a box onscreen- best method?
on Oct 20, 2016 at 4:37:00 pm

Hi Steve!

Good to see you back.

OK 2 ways:

1/- Make a transparent GIF.

2/- Use Masks on a Solid Red GenMed.

* Grazie

Video Content Creator and Potter
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Stephen Mann
Re: I need to put a box onscreen- best method?
on Oct 20, 2016 at 4:48:30 pm

Thanks, Graham.
The problem with making a transparent GIF is that I have dozens of places that need this highlight box, and they are all different sizes.
Masking- how would I make a transparent rectangle? I don't work with masking often because it takes me a lot of time to make anything work - then I forget how I got there.

Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
http://www.mmdv.com


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Graham Bernard
Re: I need to put a box onscreen- best method?
on Oct 20, 2016 at 4:55:02 pm

[Stephen Mann] "Masking- how would I make a transparent rectangle?"
This took me 10 seconds:



If you need more just ask.

* Grazie

Video Content Creator and Potter
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Graham Bernard
Re: I need to put a box onscreen- best method?
on Oct 20, 2016 at 5:00:15 pm

Steve, I saved it as a Transparent PNG and brought it BACK into VP13 as a locatable Border overlaying a Test Chart:



* Grazie

Video Content Creator and Potter
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Graham Bernard
Re: I need to put a box onscreen- best method?
on Oct 20, 2016 at 5:08:58 pm

Here's another sample with 4 in different sizes and in different positions:



* Grazie

Video Content Creator and Potter
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Stephen Mann
Re: I need to put a box onscreen- best method?
on Oct 20, 2016 at 6:12:39 pm

Thanks, but I would have to make dozens of different gif files. Sometimes I will be highlighting just one, two or three items, or half a page.

However, I will use your suggestion of a few gif files to cover most of my highlights.

Thanks.

Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
http://www.mmdv.com


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Graham Bernard
Re: I need to put a box onscreen- best method?
on Oct 20, 2016 at 6:21:59 pm

Hmm, it's starting to sound that Vegas isn't the tool for the job.

* Grazie

Video Content Creator and Potter
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Stephen Mann
Re: I need to put a box onscreen- best method?
on Oct 20, 2016 at 6:31:15 pm

It's the only editor that I ever use. I haven't pointed out the different line sizes to the client, but I wanted a solution if they complain. OTOH, it's only on screen for a few seconds, so they may not notice. Thanks for the gif tip.

Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
http://www.mmdv.com


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Graham Bernard
Re: I need to put a box onscreen- best method?
on Oct 20, 2016 at 6:48:30 pm

Vegas DOES save as PNGs, and that comes back with the ALPHA channel, a ready to go transparent background. No need for the GIFs.

* Grazie

Video Content Creator and Potter
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Stephen Mann
Re: I need to put a box onscreen- best method?
on Oct 20, 2016 at 7:00:21 pm

Am I missing something here? How did you make a hollow mask?

Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
http://www.mmdv.com


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Graham Bernard
Re: I need to put a box onscreen- best method?
on Oct 20, 2016 at 7:19:15 pm

2 Masks, one inside the other. The Outer Mask is set to Positive Mode and the Inner Mask is set to Negative Mode.

* Grazie

Video Content Creator and Potter
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Mark Barton
Re: I need to put a box onscreen- best method?
on Oct 20, 2016 at 7:26:48 pm

There is also this plugin that looks to make it simple. I remember seeing this when the author was beta testing it and posting here on this forum.

http://www.fbmn-software.com/en/border.html


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Graham Bernard
Re: I need to put a box onscreen- best method?
on Oct 20, 2016 at 7:38:49 pm

Hi Mark! Yes I too have the Border Plugin - I forgot all about that one.

* Grazie

Video Content Creator and Potter
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Stephen Mann
Re: I need to put a box onscreen- best method?
on Oct 21, 2016 at 2:11:03 am

Wow, I forgot about that one also. And I even bought a copy when Fred posted it.

Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
http://www.mmdv.com


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James Ollick
Re: I need to put a box onscreen- best method?
on Oct 20, 2016 at 10:39:31 pm

I think I have your answer and it is easy, use the cookie cutter in Vegas. I saw this video and tried it and it works! Very easy!







James Ollick


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Stephen Mann
Re: I need to put a box onscreen- best method?
on Oct 21, 2016 at 2:51:56 am

Thanks James, but I need rectangles of various sizes, and the cookie cutter doesn't allow that.

Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
http://www.mmdv.com


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James Ollick
Re: I need to put a box onscreen- best method?
on Oct 21, 2016 at 1:00:24 pm

Yes it does! Just adjust the settings including the size slider. I tried it last night with various sizes.

James Ollick


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James Ollick
Re: I need to put a box onscreen- best method?
on Oct 21, 2016 at 1:03:14 pm

Stephen,

Perhaps I can email a .veg file to you this weekend.

James Ollick


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Graham Bernard
Re: I need to put a box onscreen- best method?
on Oct 21, 2016 at 5:28:12 am

[James Ollick] "I think I have your answer and it is easy, use the cookie cutter in Vegas."
I understood Steve was wanting multiple rectangles and complete control of the spatial positioning of the rectangles. This can't be achieved with Cookie Cutter, and that is why I offered the more complex but infinitely more controllable option than the Cookie Cutter and hence why I spent not a little time in delineating the dual Mask option. You should try it out, it's quite a nice solution.

* Grazie

Video Content Creator and Potter
PC 7 64-bit 16gb * Intel® Core™i7-2600k Quad Core 3.40GHz * 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti
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Stephen Mann
Re: I need to put a box onscreen- best method?
on Oct 21, 2016 at 1:30:34 pm

Thanks, Grazie and James.
James, Grazie is correct- I need to be able to change the X and Y size independently, which is impossible in the Cookie Cutter. I believe that the Cookie Cutter was designed for PIP, and never developed beyond its creation.

Grazie- This sounds like a good article to add to my Vegas Wiki: VegasTips, which I will do when I finish a time-sensitive project. Or I could give you an account on it. Take a look and send me an email.

Steve

Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
http://www.mmdv.com


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Graham Bernard
Re: I need to put a box onscreen- best method?
on Oct 21, 2016 at 5:36:16 pm

Hi Steve.

I found my Fred Border - It is and was a GenMed ( I'm a fooool), anyhoo, here's a sample:



* Grazie

Video Content Creator and Potter
PC 7 64-bit 16gb * Intel® Core™i7-2600k Quad Core 3.40GHz * 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti
Cameras: Canon XF300 + PowerShot SX50HS Bridge


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James Ollick
Re: I need to put a box onscreen- best method?
on Oct 22, 2016 at 12:36:53 am
Last Edited By James Ollick on Oct 22, 2016 at 1:26:43 am

Ok, I see what you mean, I tried it again and you can size the cookie cutter but rectangle grows in all directions. The plugin Graham recommended looks like it fits the need. Too bad Vegas did not add X and Y scaling to the cookie cutter. Sorry for the confusion. I liked the FBmn Border so I purchased it tonight. You never know when you will need it so for the $22 it was worth it and it works in Vegas 14!

James Ollick


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László Kovács
Re: I need to put a box onscreen- best method?
on Oct 22, 2016 at 7:54:02 pm

Hi,

this "Fred Border" may be useful to me too. Where is it possible to get it?
I don't find...

Thanks

Best regards

László Kovács


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Graham Bernard
Re: I need to put a box onscreen- best method?
on Oct 22, 2016 at 9:13:42 pm

[László Kovács] " Where is it possible to get it?
I don't find..."
Here yah go: Frédéric Baumann

* Grazie

Video Content Creator and Potter
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László Kovács
Re: I need to put a box onscreen- best method?
on Oct 23, 2016 at 7:17:25 am

Thanks!!!
I bookmarked :)

Best regards

László Kovács


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