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scott sullivan
Can you open a Vegas 14 project in Vegas 13?
on Oct 10, 2016 at 8:01:49 pm

I despise Vegas 14 pro and want to go back. Is there any way to bring my work with me?

Thanks


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George Dalton
Re: Can you open a Vegas 14 project in Vegas 13?
on Oct 10, 2016 at 8:33:40 pm

With that said, what is the general consensus? I have not upgraded from 13, and this is largely due to the fact that I generally skip the following upgrade and wait until the second upgrade, which would put me at Vegas 15. Because this is a major change for the Vegas software (new company), I am willing to be patient. But with that said, I am at a point where I have purchased a lot of plugins that meet my needs for vegas 13, and Vegas 13 meets my basic needs.
But, if I have to start over again, I may look elsewhere whenever that time comes. In short, what is everyone's impression of Vegas 14 thus far?


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George Dean
Re: Can you open a Vegas 14 project in Vegas 13?
on Oct 10, 2016 at 10:25:28 pm

Hi Scott,

When I tried, it didn't work. It was a simple project (2 minutes) for testing Magix Vegas Pro 14 ( build 161). When I tried to load the project into Sony Vegas Pro 13 (build 453), I got the message that the project was created in a newer version.

However, I read a while back about a developer that created, I think a script file, that will load various projects into various versions. I'll try to run it down and get a link....

Best Regards......George


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George Dean
Re: Can you open a Vegas 14 project in Vegas 13?
on Oct 10, 2016 at 10:31:12 pm

Hi Scott,

Sorry, my memory was a bit off....the program I thought of is actually used to load Vegas Pro into Movie Studio, it is called Movie Studio / Vegas Pro Faker, to assit in swapping projects between Vegas Pro and Movie Studio.....no help for your purpose!

Best Regards......George


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Antonio Souto
Re: Can you open a Vegas 14 project in Vegas 13?
on Oct 10, 2016 at 10:57:43 pm

Forgot to tell that there is one annoying thing about Vegas 14 when using my Canon 60D. The rendered mp4, Full HD file looks as it it is interlaced, although correctly set to render in progressive mode. For me this is not critical because I seldom use the Canon 60D, and did not notice any problem regarding the files from the Lumix GH4 and the FZ1000 (4k and Full HD). In any case, I hope Magix will correct this problem.


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Antonio Souto
Re: Can you open a Vegas 14 project in Vegas 13?
on Oct 10, 2016 at 10:46:17 pm

I am quite please with Vegas Pro 14. Rendering is on the slower side, as in previous versions, but everything else works perfectly fine on my computer. I acquired a licence for the Suite version.


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Steve Rhoden
Re: Can you open a Vegas 14 project in Vegas 13?
on Oct 10, 2016 at 10:29:10 pm

Sorry Scott, that's not possible. Vegas 14 project files cannot be opened in Vegas 13.
That's how its always been, newer version files are never compatible with older versions.

Steve Rhoden (Cow Leader)
Film Maker & VFX Artist.
Owner of Filmex Creative Media.
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Erik Davis
Re: Can you open a Vegas 14 project in Vegas 13?
on Oct 11, 2016 at 6:22:41 am

One of the things I really like about VP13 is that I can open the files in VP12 also. There are times where this has saved me with a problem project file. I was hopeful that VP14 would retain backwards capability with at least VP13 but that didn't happen.


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László Kovács
Re: Can you open a Vegas 14 project in Vegas 13?
on Oct 11, 2016 at 8:29:22 am

What seems to be possible is to copy/paste.
If you copy something to clipboard in Vegas 14, that is possible to paste in Vegas 13. (I tried ;))
So on timeline in V14 ctrl-A, ctrl-C, then ctrl-V in V13.
That brings all your events and event properties (and if locked to events, envelopes) into V13 (not sure about all effects, the basic effects work).
Then the track keyframes need the same: track motion -> select all keyframes, ctr-C, then in V13 paste them to the according track.
Composite levels and track compositing mode need manual adjustment, I guess.

Best regards

László Kovács


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Richard Jones
Re: Can you open a Vegas 14 project in Vegas 13?
on Oct 11, 2016 at 10:23:43 am

Yes, it's almost always been impossible to open a project in an earlier version of Vegas (although Vegas 13/12 may have been an exception). If you are going to copy and paste you will need to have both projects open at the same time as it will not normally work if you open them separately.

Incidentally (although I've never tried it and don't know what affect it will have on quality), might not a render from version 14 with this rendered file then being opened in version 13 do the trick?

Richard


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Wayne Waag
Re: Can you open a Vegas 14 project in Vegas 13?
on Oct 13, 2016 at 2:59:47 am

László is right. Copy-paste is your friend.

wwaag


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I.G. Romov
Re: Can you open a Vegas 14 project in Vegas 13?
on Oct 30, 2016 at 8:16:05 am

Didn't work for me. Also, paste is grayed out in Vegas 13; thus, ctl-v also won't work.



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I.G. Romov
Re: Can you open a Vegas 14 project in Vegas 13?
on Oct 30, 2016 at 8:17:14 am

Didn't work for me. Also, paste is grayed out in Vegas 13; thus, ctl-v also won't work.


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Richard Jones
Re: Can you open a Vegas 14 project in Vegas 13?
on Oct 30, 2016 at 9:14:58 am

Even if you have both 13 and 14 open at the same time? It has always been essential to have both projects open at the same time if you wish to copy and paste between them. If this doesn't work it might be worth exploring whether the other option I mentioned in my previous post might do the trick.

Richard


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Setiawan Kartawidjaja
Re: Can you open a Vegas 14 project in Vegas 13?
on Oct 30, 2016 at 3:17:54 pm

Even if you have both 13 and 14 open at the same time?

Nope, not possible... already tried this.

Setiawan

Chungs Video Production
Bandung, Indonesia


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László Kovács
Re: Can you open a Vegas 14 project in Vegas 13?
on Oct 30, 2016 at 3:30:17 pm

Hi,

Open Vegas 13, then open Vegas14. In V14 open your source project.
Copy something on the timeline to the clipboard, then switch to Vegas13.
Don't close Vegas 14, just switch to V13, and do the paste.
I tried this method before I actually suggested to Scott, and found it working.
I could transfer even the track motion keyframes to the other project in V13 this way.

Best regards

László Kovács


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I.G. Romov
Re: Can you open a Vegas 14 project in Vegas 13?
on Oct 31, 2016 at 5:13:08 am

Again did exactly as recommended with no joy. As reported earlier, all the commands are grayed out; thus, Paste does not show but then neither does ctl-v. One can copy/paste across a pair of open Vegas 13's or 14's but across versions does not work. What OS are you using and what version of Vegas 14? Perhaps some clue there?


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László Kovács
Re: Can you open a Vegas 14 project in Vegas 13?
on Oct 31, 2016 at 7:50:43 am

Hi,

OS is Windows 7 Home premium.
Vegas 13 is build 545, Vegas 14 is build 161.

Best regards

László Kovács


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Setiawan Kartawidjaja
Re: Can you open a Vegas 14 project in Vegas 13?
on Oct 31, 2016 at 8:08:22 am

So they need to be the same 'MAGIX'... Not 'Magix' to 'Sony' application...

Setiawan

Chungs Video Production
Bandung, Indonesia


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Wayne Waag
Re: Can you open a Vegas 14 project in Vegas 13?
on Oct 31, 2016 at 3:38:58 pm

I can also confirm it doesn't work going from V13 543 to V14 161. That's a real shame.

wwaag


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Ole Kristiansen
Re: Can you open a Vegas 14 project in Vegas 13?
on Oct 31, 2016 at 3:59:25 pm

I tried to export a Premiere/After Effects .prproj from Magix Vegas Pro 14 -
and import the Premiere/After Effects .prproj to Sony Vegas Pro 13 - it's certainly not perfect !


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I.G. Romov
Re: Can you open a Vegas 14 project in Vegas 13?
on Oct 31, 2016 at 10:59:04 pm

Aha! Mystery solved. Set Kart (hope that's ok with you );) called it right. Now the only problem is getting build 545 which may be available on supplying proof of purchase (serial) and a request to Magix as suggested somewhere.



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Jackie Luffy
Re: Can you open a Vegas 14 project in Vegas 13?
on Jan 12, 2017 at 5:44:46 am

Hello Scott! Have I got some great news for you! ☺

I myself had this exact same problem, there is a way! So before I say this like it was mentioned earlier if you have 13 (545) then you will not have this problem, but as for you and me we had an older version of 13 so for other people reading or have this problem if you have 13 build (545) you won't even have to worry as you can transfer back and forth fine with 14 and 13

All you have to do is uninstall 13 (the old version you have)
Either find a trial version of build 545 or like I did find a link for a keygen for it (I had to because it was impossible to find the trial version)

Once that is installed open up Vegas 14 and Vegas 13 (build 545) and you will notice now you have the ability to copy from program to program, do that and save as your project in Vegas 13 build 545, close the programs and uninstall Vegas build 545..

Now all you have to do is re-install your older version of Vegas 13 and you will now notice you will be able to open the project!

Reason I wanted to do this is because Vegas 14 is giving me and my computer WAY too many problems, its super glitchy and always is crashing, I'm assuming its because MAGIX changed up how it works and I guess it doesn't work well now with my computer so I decieded to just stick with the exact same version of 13 that I have been using for years instead because I know I've done very long hours of editing and absolutley no problems have came up and even though 13 build 545 is a better upgrade I suspect that it is even more closer to the changes made in how 14 works and I'd just rather not even risk it


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I.G. Romov
Re: Can you open a Vegas 14 project in Vegas 13?
on Jan 18, 2017 at 12:45:41 am

Not Scott here but am here to offer appreciation for your find. I've tried it and it mostly works; certainly well enough to be worth the effort. "Mostly" means everything seems to move over except composite settings; I had one small problem with one PIP (why I don't know as all the others were fine), but, again, nothing that wasn't easily taken care of. Unfortunately, even though Vegas 14 is unstable, Vegas 13 didn't prove any better (surprised) probably due to the GTX 670 as I get numerous project killing Unmanaged Exception (0xc0000005) Fault Module: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\nvoglv64.DLL errors which won't go away despite much effort. Anyway, thanks for posting your find!



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Marten Keekstra
Re: Can you open a Vegas 14 project in Vegas 13?
on Jan 18, 2017 at 8:32:54 pm

Since more than a year I use with succes the tool Versionfaker from FocusOnVegas to change the flag of a veg (VPro) or vf (Movie Studio) from or to an older version.
Untill now it failed never with me.
Look here for that and other tools: http://www.focusonvegas.com/movie-studio-vegas-pro-version-faker/


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