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Clive McLaughlin
My credit card is ready, somebody just tell me what to buy!
on Jul 12, 2016 at 3:16:56 pm

Wasting far too much of my time here trying to research potential upgrades for my system.

I've been here before, and researched when moving from awful to descent, and from descent to good.

Now I just want high-end (within reason!).

I'm fed up with reading and reading and reading threads and hearing contradictory statements.

I currently have

XeonE3-1246 v3 3.50 GHz
32GB DDR3 RAM
Geforce GTX570
Vegas Pro13, on Windows 10 64bit.

I attempted an upgrade to an Radeon R9 390, but the results were poor in render, and timeline playback showed little improvement.

I've read that MainConcept only supports a select few GPU's which are all about 5 years old now, and newer Nvidia do not have the same fast render with CUDA.

With same timeline section, my R9 390 rendered to MainConcept in 1m35 on CPU only, whilst with the GTX 570 installed it clocked 1m20. On MainConcept, with both OpenCL or CUDA, the R9 390 showed no noteworthy speed increase, where the GTX 570 blazed its way through at 42secs.
On Sony/AVC we saw the GTX 570 outperform the R9 390, but only by 5 secs, and GPU turned on did not see the GTX570 run away with it in the same way it did with a MainConcept render.

On playback and render, CPU usage is generally at 95% and higher, whilst GPU on both cards I tried were never above 35%.

Can my 570 render speeds with Main Concept be beaten?

My CPU maxes out when previewing in 'Good' and drops to 3fps. 'Preview' quality does the job I guess, but it would be nice to watch realtime at higher quality.

As for CPU upgrade, the best my Motherboard can upgrade to is an i7 4790K. If that's not a huge improvement, I would consider upgrading motherbaord and re-installing OS.

But yea, I just want a fairly definitive answer, if anyone is brave enough!

Tell me what CPU and GPU to buy!

Go!


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John Rofrano
Re: My credit card is ready, somebody just tell me what to buy!
on Jul 13, 2016 at 12:57:08 pm

This is why people buy Macs. This is why I bought a Mac! lol

There is no hardware combination that is going to work for you with MainConcept. It is an old outdated encoder and MAGIX needs to realize this and update the Vegas Pro encoders to take advantage of modern graphics cards. Until then, the only thing that works is equally old hardware. I would wait and see of MAGIX fixes this in September or just reships the old outdated encoders that you have today. Only time will tell.

I went from a AMD Radeon HD 5780 that worked great with MainConcept to a AMD Radeon HD 7950 that stopped working because it was too new. So a better graphics card worked worse with Vegas Pro. Go figure. Hopefully MAGIX sees the problem with this that Sony didn't.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasstsoftware.com



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Clive McLaughlin
Re: My credit card is ready, somebody just tell me what to buy!
on Jul 13, 2016 at 1:13:55 pm

Interesting John,
My GTX570 smashes everything else on MainConcept, and smashes teh newer card I tried. So I think I'll stick with it. Probably an upgrade in CPU to something with more cores will probably further improve my GTX 570's MainCencept speeds.

Out of interest, are you somehow running vegas on your mac? Or have you jumped ship?


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John Rofrano
Re: My credit card is ready, somebody just tell me what to buy!
on Jul 13, 2016 at 1:22:37 pm

[Clive McLaughlin] "Out of interest, are you somehow running vegas on your mac? Or have you jumped ship?"
I run Vegas Pro on my Mac using VMware Fusion or Bootcamp. I also use Final Cut Pro X.

Here is Vegas Pro running on my Mac desktop:



...but to tell you the truth, I am mostly using FCP X these days. ;-)

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasstsoftware.com



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