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Keith Hill
3D Particles
on Oct 23, 2006 at 8:13:18 pm

I have the Mac version of Particle Illusion 3 and am enjoying it very much.

I don't have after effects, but use Combustion 4, Motion 2 and Cinema 4D. I notice that Trapcode Particular can operate in 3D space. Do you think that Particle Illusion will ever be capable of operating in 3D space?



Keith Hill
http://www.LightedPath.biz
Dallas, TX
Final Cut Studio, Combustion4 (Mac), Cinema 4D r9.6, PhotoshopCS2, PIllusion 3, StitcherUlimited, Boujou_PXC; Mac G5 (v10.4.6) 2Ghz, 1.5 RAM


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Aharon Rabinowitz
Re: 3D Particles
on Oct 24, 2006 at 12:51:51 am

The word from wondertouch is - probably, yes - eventually. But not right now. If you absolutely need 3D and you can't fake it in pIllusion, then look into trapcode particular.

Also, AE has CC Particle World which is a 3D particle Generator that works with the AE comp camera.

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Keith Hill
Re: 3D Particles
on Oct 24, 2006 at 3:25:20 am

That's good to hear.

I don't have AE, but have Combustion 4 (Mac version).

Keith Hill
http://www.LightedPath.biz
Dallas, TX
Final Cut Studio, Combustion4 (Mac), Cinema 4D r9.6, PhotoshopCS2, PIllusion 3, StitcherUlimited, Boujou_PXC; Mac G5 (v10.4.6) 2Ghz, 1.5 RAM


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shadu
Re: 3D Particles
on Oct 24, 2006 at 10:15:33 am

Trapcode particular don't work with combustion.... I did try it... Very frustrating. I love all the trapcode plugin but particular is a ... particular case... I did try it in AE and it work very well, if PI can come in the 3D universe it could be WOW!

Shadu


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Keith Hill
Re: 3D Particles
on Oct 24, 2006 at 10:23:25 am

So, what's the difference between Particular and Particle Illusion? Is it just the 3D aspect or is there something else?

Keith Hill
http://www.LightedPath.biz
Dallas, TX
Final Cut Studio, Combustion4 (Mac), Cinema 4D r9.6, PhotoshopCS2, PIllusion 3, StitcherUlimited, Boujou_PXC; Mac G5 (v10.4.6) 2Ghz, 1.5 RAM


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Alan Lorence
Re: 3D Particles
on Oct 24, 2006 at 11:48:38 am

particleIllusion will be 3D in version 4.0 (probably late 2007).

pIllusion AE (the long-delayed plug-in version for After Effects) is still in development, and will probably be released early 2007. It will be based on version 3.0 of the engine.

I doubt that you'll ever see particleIllusion working in 3D in Combustion unless Combustion's AE plug-in support is updated so pIllusion AE will be able to work there (and once pIllusion AE uses the 4.0 engine, which as I said won't be released until late 2007 or so).




Alan.
wondertouch


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shadu
Re: 3D Particles
on Oct 27, 2006 at 12:56:11 pm

That a very good news. Can't wait to see a PI plugin who could work in combustion (i hope it will...) and a PI3D.

Particular is good but the preset are boff... But with a little patience you can replicate the same as PI but in 3D... I sued it in one scene where my PI particule needed to go in 3D...

Shadu


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Aharon Rabinowitz
Re: 3D Particles
on Oct 24, 2006 at 11:53:05 am

ParticleIllusion is a stand alone application with many many preset effects (1400+) out of the box.

Particular is a plug-in for AE with cosiderably less presets. However, it is in After Effects, and uses 3D.

Based on this, there are times to use one and not the other.

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Alan Lorence
Re: 3D Particles
on Oct 24, 2006 at 12:11:07 pm

[Aharon Rabinowitz] "many many preset effects (1400+)"

It's actually over 1800. I counted (using a Search) when I built the catalog page. Feel free to check this (anybody) and let me know if I made a mistake.




Alan.
wondertouch


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Jon Okerstrom
Re: 3D Particles
on Oct 24, 2006 at 3:31:58 am

For me, the larger question is when - or if - pillusion will be offered as a plug-in to After Effects. It would be a great compliment to Particular. They're different enough that I'd like to have both in my toolbox.

It would be nice to see something from Wondertouch about the time Adobe releases the universal version of After Effects. A guy can wish, right?

Jon



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Alan Lorence
Re: 3D Particles
on Oct 24, 2006 at 11:50:13 am

We're still working on pIllusion AE, and you should expect to see it early 2007 or sooner.




Alan.
wondertouch


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Jon Okerstrom
Re: 3D Particles
on Oct 25, 2006 at 12:39:48 am

Cool. Can't wait.

Jon



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James Taylor
Re: 3D Particles
on Oct 25, 2006 at 2:26:36 pm

Is there any word on what version of AE the plugin will work with? I decided to skip the 7.0 upgrade and I


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Alan Lorence
Re: 3D Particles
on Oct 25, 2006 at 3:02:22 pm

It will work in 6.5. I think I need to put up a pIllusion AE info page on our website. =)




Alan.
wondertouch


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James Taylor
Re: 3D Particles
on Oct 25, 2006 at 3:41:36 pm

Thanks


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Keith Hill
Re: 3D Particles
on Mar 21, 2007 at 6:02:40 am

Is there a particular (pardon the pun) reason why Autodesk doesn't want to update to Particle Illusion newer engines? They have a new Product Manager who seems to aggressive about getting the application to the next level.

Keith Hill
http://www.LightedPath.biz
Dallas, TX
Final Cut Studio, Combustion4 (Mac), Cinema 4D r9.6, PhotoshopCS2, PIllusion 3, StitcherUlimited, Boujou_PXC; Mac G5 (v10.4.6) 2Ghz, 1.5 RAM


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