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Ben Edwards
PCPx in local TV
on Jan 16, 2012 at 10:28:15 pm

Hi,

I started a debate on the 'FCPx or not debate' forum and it was suggested I ask here, Bob Zelin name came up specifically.

For reference the thread is at http://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/335/24274.

We are talking about a small (2 edit station) operation here delivered to DVB-T. Was wondering if anyone here has looked at FCPx for news cutting (and magazine programs) and what conclusion they came up with.

My gut feeling is that FCPx is not the correct solution but it does have a lot going for it, maybe not now but maybe in 6 months or a year.

Ben

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Ben Edwards
We are looking at using FCPx is small local station, advise please
on Jan 17, 2012 at 10:27:15 am

Realised the subject may of put people off, this is not a casual is FCPx used in local TV but a legitimating question from a prospective new station in the UK.

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Gary Hazen
Re: PCPx in local TV
on Jan 17, 2012 at 6:46:03 pm

[Ben Edwards] "My gut feeling is that FCPx is not the correct solution but it does have a lot going for it, maybe not now but maybe in 6 months or a year."

Looking at it from the perpective of where you expect FCPX to be a year from now is the tail wagging the dog. The question is, where do expect the broadcast operation to be 5 years from now? Will it be 6 edit suites instead of 2 ? What other types of hardware (servers, CG's, etc.) will be in utilized at the facility? How will signal distribution be handled (Router or File based IP network)? How will the NLE's used for post exchange content with the other hardware?

I'm sure that Bob can offer up a slew of other items to be considered. My point is that there are a ton of things to consider when choosing the appropriate hardware for a broadcast facility. It's far more complex that setting up a small post facility.

Ask a post shop owner about the importance of having a dual power supply. Ask Bob Zelin or any other broadcast professional the same question. You'll likely get two different answers.


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Ben Edwards
Re: PCPx in local TV
on Jan 17, 2012 at 8:51:41 pm

Thanks a lot for that. I get you on the tail wagging the dog, I said it mainly because the actual derision wont be made for at least 6 months.

I also appreciate the comment about being forward looking and agree but think if I use this as a reason not to buy FCPx it will be met with resistance. The stance will probably be re-evaluate in a year and if things are going well change system (I know this is not ideal).

Ben

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Dave LaRonde
Re: PCPx in local TV
on Jan 18, 2012 at 5:12:32 pm

As Gary points out, TV stations do far more things than a boutique post house. All the activities it will be required to do must be taken into account.

Will it take feeds from a satellite?
Will it originate local programming?
Will it do newscasts?
Will it make commercials, interstitials and promos?
Who needs access to the video?
Will it air syndicated or network programming?
What are the plans for archiving?

Since I don't design TV stations, I don't know all the questions. I simply work at a TV station that is simultaneously going all-HD, all-digital, with a new HD news set and a new station graphics package. This change will occur within the next two weeks.

This is who is doing the systems integration:
http://www.becktv.com/index.html

This is who designed, built and lit our new HD news set:
http://www.ddgtv.com/

You will further note that I made absolutely NO mention of editing software. In fact, I made no mention of equipment. It's all part of the integrated system that will become our brand-new station. For our particular needs, this was the editing software of choice:
http://www.grassvalley.com/products/edius_6
At the bottom of the page, this shows you the various systems with which it can work, and I'm not really sure which ones we're using:
http://www.grassvalley.com/products/aurora_browse

So FCP X's cutesy little magnetic timeline and low purchase price is but a miniscule consideration in the total picture of putting a TV station together. There are far more fundamental decisions that need to be made first.

And if you'd like to contact Bob Zelin to learn the kinds of fundamental questions station management should be asking, look here:
http://www.bobzelin.com/Home
Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Ben Edwards
Re: PCPx in local TV
on Jan 18, 2012 at 6:16:47 pm

Dave,

Indeed, the reason I was talking about FCPx was the thread started on the FCPx Debate forum. I have taken on board your comments about Edious and will defiantly push for it to be looked at.

Regards,
Ben

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Dave LaRonde
Re: PCPx in local TV
on Jan 18, 2012 at 6:28:28 pm

Well, before you start pushing for anything, the people who are building this station have some very fundamental questions to answer. If they can't answer them, you're blind. You may be recommending the wrong editing application for the job.

And as I took great pains to point out, it's not the paramount decision to be made until those fundamental decisions are made. Proceed with caution.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Ben Edwards
Re: PCPx in local TV
on Jan 18, 2012 at 6:35:26 pm

Thanks Dave,

Currently they are mainly focusing on winning the licensing bid, when that (hopefully) happens the nitty gritty of building a station will be there focus and (hopefully) things will be considered properly. At least they are talking about having a proper asset management system but can discuss this when the time comes.

Ben

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Richard Cardonna
Re: PCPx in local TV
on Jan 22, 2012 at 3:35:51 pm

At present there are better options for broadcasting than fcpx. Apps like vegas and edius are very fast and powerfull. Vegas has great tools for Broadcast video production.

RC


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Paul Lewis
Re: PCPx in local TV
on Feb 24, 2012 at 1:41:03 pm

Avid Newscutter or Media Composer

Cheers,
Paul Lewis


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