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Phil Bates
Apple Pro Res Universally Compatible?
on Aug 18, 2010 at 8:28:52 pm

I asked this question in another forum, but wanted to cover all my bases: Just wondering if Apple Pro Res(including HQ and 444) is considered a universal format, compatible with most editing and compositing applications? Do you know of any problems or issues with this codec?

Thanks,
Phil


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Dave LaRonde
Re: Apple Pro Res Universally Compatible?
on Aug 18, 2010 at 10:06:20 pm

Sadly, no. HQ and 4444 are only available on machines with the Final Cut Suite 3 installed.

The closest thing to a universal codec in Quicktime is Animation. It's 8-bit, but it's lossless.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Bob Zelin
Re: Apple Pro Res Universally Compatible?
on Aug 18, 2010 at 10:07:14 pm

Of course it's not universally compatible ! It's an Apple product. There is no codec that is univerally compatible. There is no "easy", so you don't have to think about it. This applies to AVID DNxHD, MPEG2, MPEG4 (h.264), and everything else. There is not one single codec (not even .psd) that can be read by everything on the market.

Bob Zelin



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Phil Bates
Re: Apple Pro Res Universally Compatible?
on Aug 18, 2010 at 10:50:01 pm

Hmm... maybe I was too all-inclusive. Up 'til now, as a stock footage company, we have provided Quicktime flies compressed with PhotoJPEG. It has been accepted by virtually all our customers without problem. Unfortunately, we are having quality issues the latest version of CS5's PhotoJPEG output. We need an alternative. Other than Apple Pro Res, I don't have any other options that come close to quality, file size and convenience.

Thanks,
Phil

Phil Bates
http://www.artbeats.com


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Dave LaRonde
Re: Apple Pro Res Universally Compatible?
on Aug 18, 2010 at 10:58:40 pm

[Phil Bates] "...we have provided Quicktime flies compressed with PhotoJPEG... Unfortunately, we are having quality issues the latest version of CS5's PhotoJPEG output"

Rather than abandon Photo JPEG -- a darned good codec, I think -- I'd try asking about the codec in the appropriate forum. Or perhaps even give Adobe customer service a call. If Artbeats called me with a complaint about image quality, I'm pretty sure I'd listen.

You have to remember that even though CS5 is 64-bit, Quicktime remains 32-bit... and the Adobe apps will access QT.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Phil Bates
Re: Apple Pro Res Universally Compatible?
on Aug 19, 2010 at 3:19:13 pm

Thanks Dave, we are in discussion with Adobe now and one of their engineers has our files. We'll see how it goes.

Phil

Phil Bates
http://www.artbeats.com


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Dave LaRonde
Re: Apple Pro Res Universally Compatible?
on Aug 19, 2010 at 3:24:26 pm

[Phil Bates] "we are in discussion with Adobe now and one of their engineers has our files. "

Glad to hear it. If I was of any help even better: Artbeats footage has been a big help to me over the years.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Walter Soyka
Re: Apple Pro Res Universally Compatible?
on Aug 24, 2010 at 2:53:43 pm

[Phil Bates] "Thanks Dave, we are in discussion with Adobe now and one of their engineers has our files. We'll see how it goes."

Hi Phil,

Any progress on your Motion-JPEG banding issue? That one really puzzled me, and I'd love to hear how it gets resolved.

Thanks,

Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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Phil Bates
Re: Apple Pro Res Universally Compatible?
on Aug 24, 2010 at 3:14:34 pm

Hi Walter,
Nothing yet from Adobe. I will post post their response here though.

Phil
http://www.artbeats.com

Phil Bates
http://www.artbeats.com


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John Heagy
Re: Apple Pro Res Universally Compatible?
on Aug 22, 2010 at 6:36:28 pm

If you need a compressed 10bit codec that can be read, and therefore transcoded to other formats, ProRes is a good choice. Apple offers a free PC and Mac ProRes decoder. There's good reason why EVS and Arri chose it.

The below codecs do not allow encoding... for that you do need a Mac and FCP. Really just Qmaster... no serial required.. a little known fact.

http://support.apple.com/downloads/Apple_ProRes_QuickTime_Decoder_1_0_for_W...

http://support.apple.com/downloads/Apple_ProRes_QuickTime_Decoder_1_0_for_M...


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