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Johan Hoogendoorn
noob question about delivery
on Apr 9, 2010 at 5:28:15 pm

Hi,

A few short documentary's that I made will be broadcasted by a local television station (in the Netherlands).

the technical guy mailed me these delivery specifications:

- Video format: 720 x 576
- Aspect ratio: 16:9 (anamorphic)

- File: MXF, Embedded AVI, Embedded MOV (quicktime), MPEG 2 (CBR 8Mbit)

I suppose he means "please deliver an MXF file that contains EITHER an Embedded AVI, OR an Embedded MOV (quicktime), OR an MPEG 2"
??

I work in Adobe Premiere (CS4) and can find no clue about generating an MXF file out of it.


I'd rather not ask the guy directly in fear of looking stupid.. I hope somebody can point me the good direction..


thanks in advance!



Regards,

Johan
















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Chad Brewer
Re: noob question about delivery
on Apr 9, 2010 at 11:06:53 pm

Johan,
Forget about an MXF file wrapper here. The other acceptable deliverables are much simpler. Deliver the station either an uncompressed 8-bit Quicktime or uncompressed 8-bit AVI file that is anamorphic PAL (720x576 @ 25fps).

Chad Brewer
Senior Tape Operator/Engineer
TeleVersions


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Bob Zelin
Re: noob question about delivery
on Apr 10, 2010 at 1:09:47 am

this is the best newbie question I have seen in ages. Stations in the Netherlands are apparently now
accepting DATA instead of a tape delivery, and it shows that ALL OF US need to know how to deliver in the required formats. MXF is a typical "AVID" type format which is not limited to AVID. .mov is typical of FCP edit systems. It is SO important for all of us to start to learn to deliver ALL of these formats, as every station will have different delivery requirements.

Great question.

Bob Zelin



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Johan Hoogendoorn
Re: noob question about delivery
on Apr 10, 2010 at 10:55:01 am

thanks.

I offered the station to deliver a .mov with photo jpeg codec at 80% quality. They refused that. Ok, it's lossy, but I doubt a .mov with no compression will be accepted.

As I read it, they ask for an .MXF container, with "Embedded mov". Or "Embedded avi". Or "Embedded mpeg"..????

But I will ask.

Bob, I would love to aquire the knowledge of how to deliver in .MXF. The point is, where do I get this knowledge..

Either way, the idea to record from premiere to a lousy dv codec on my camera.. seems way beyond ridiculous!




regards,

Johan


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Bob Zelin
Re: noob question about delivery
on Apr 10, 2010 at 6:34:28 pm

http://www.sorensonmedia.com/

Sorensen Squeeze works with Premier, and I believe will allow you to compress to .mxf,
and it looks like there is a free trial download.

Bob Zelin




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maurice jansen
Re: noob question about delivery
on Apr 11, 2010 at 10:16:51 am

hi johan

please look at the site of
De Dutch Guild of Multi-Media Engineers
http://www.dutchguild.nl

and look at there SPOT document.
this is the standard for digital delivery for most dutchstation's
for TV commercial's but also used for normal program's
i have the strong feel they want this.
which station is it ???

grt
Maurice



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Johan Hoogendoorn
Re: noob question about delivery
on Apr 12, 2010 at 6:46:36 pm

Hi guys,

i'll try squeeze tomorrow

maurice, thanks for the document
I understand about 25% of it..!


it's RTV Utrecht



johan


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Rob Neidig
Re: noob question about delivery
on Apr 15, 2010 at 3:35:33 pm

Johan wrote:

File: MXF, Embedded AVI, Embedded MOV (quicktime), MPEG 2 (CBR 8Mbit)

Johan,

My understanding of what they wrote is that you can deliver EITHER MXF, OR an Embedded AVI, OR an embedded Quicktime, OR MPEG-2 encoded using a constant bit rate of 8 megabits per second. Out of Premiere, your best options would be the AVI or MPEG-2 options (if you have a a good MPEG-2 encoder).

Have fun!

Rob

Rob Neidig
R&R Media Productions
Eugene, Oregon


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