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Chuck Doud
How to get Clean Crisp Web Videos
on Jan 14, 2007 at 3:15:54 pm

Whats the magic? I have started doing a host of web videos recently and those nasty horizontal lines appear on high motion sequences.

Does anyone have a trick or render advice to achieve 'visual creamy-ness'?

Thanks!

--Chuck

Chuck Doud
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Chuck Doud
Re: How to get Clean Crisp Web Videos
on Jan 14, 2007 at 6:39:50 pm

I should prolly add...

Using Premiere 6.5 on a WinXp Pro system. I shoot in 4:3, edit in 740X480, and simulate the letter box format.

Thanks!

--C

Chuck Doud
Creative Guy


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Ed
Re: How to get Clean Crisp Web Videos
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on Jan 15, 2007 at 6:28:01 pm

De-interlace.
Ed


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Chuck Doud
Re: How to get Clean Crisp Web Videos
on Jan 15, 2007 at 8:00:19 pm

Hi Ed,

I always deinterlace....no joy. :(

I shoot with a Elura 70, edit in Premiere's 720X480 mode and try to export using windows media export 2mb (smooth) setting...

I just get all these horizontal lines on motion when they are rendered for web use. I have seen some really slick, smooth stuff on the web with my monitor...so that's not neccesarily the issue.

Any other ideas?

Thanks!

--C

Chuck Doud
Creative Guy


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Ed
Re: How to get Clean Crisp Web Videos
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on Jan 15, 2007 at 10:34:25 pm

Ok, so now you need to provide more info. What does "horizontal" mean to you?
Do you mean the typical stairstep, scisoor-like jagged edges? Or do you mean actual
horizontal lines? What you're describing sounds like the usual, interlaced video.
Ed


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Chuck Doud
Re: How to get Clean Crisp Web Videos
on Jan 16, 2007 at 6:50:08 pm

Yes the horizontal jagged edges on the actual source....like someone unglued the picture during high motion.


Thoughts?

--C


Chuck Doud
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Ed
Re: How to get Clean Crisp Web Videos
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on Jan 16, 2007 at 9:28:27 pm

What's your compression workflow? If the jaggies appear on the "actual source", it's probably interlaced, and that's normal
when viewed on a computer monitor.
How are you de-interlacing? And what are you viewing it on? Details, details! :-)
Ed


[Chuck Doud] "Yes the horizontal jagged edges on the actual source....like someone unglued the picture during high motion."



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Chuck Doud
Re: How to get Clean Crisp Web Videos
on Jan 16, 2007 at 9:57:04 pm

Ed, first...I want to thank you for actually helping me here...

I am running an Canon Elura 70 in from firewire on Premiere 6.5 and Premiere Pro. It edits and renders as smooth as silk and I have no issues ripping a file down for DVD or back to the camera.

Recently, a LOT of people have asked me to do some of my work for web...and being a 'lone wolf operation'...I just read up what I could and export using the Windows Media 2mb export. I choose de-interlacing and I still get those darned 'jaggies'.

I have seen a ton of video on the web that is relatively small in file size (20MB per minute or less) that is smooth, creamy, and devoid of the jaggies.

Is there another option I should use? Or another app? I am really new to 'render for web'...and although I am able to get in the proverbial game...I would like the quality to be pro.

Thoughts?

Again, for your time and patience...thanks!

--C

Chuck Doud
Creative Guy


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Chuck Doud
Re: How to get Clean Crisp Web Videos
on Jan 16, 2007 at 9:57:59 pm

I edit in the 720X480 32k format within Premiere as well if that helps.

--C

Chuck Doud
Creative Guy


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Chuck Doud
Re: How to get Clean Crisp Web Videos
on Jan 16, 2007 at 9:58:57 pm

oh...and NSTC format as well.

-C

Chuck Doud
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Ed
Re: How to get Clean Crisp Web Videos
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on Jan 17, 2007 at 6:38:59 pm

I don't use Premiere so I'm guessing, but what are your de-interlacing options?
DV is Lower Field for setting de-interlacing. Are you given an option of Upper or Lower?
If so, choose lower. You also might ask for specifics in the Premiere forum.
Ed


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Martin Rose
Re: How to get Clean Crisp Web Videos
on Jan 17, 2007 at 9:28:41 pm

Try
http://www.alparysoft.com/products.php?cid=7


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Chuck Doud
Re: How to get Clean Crisp Web Videos
on Jan 17, 2007 at 9:34:51 pm

Thanks for the guidance!!!

I truly appreciate your help.

--C

Chuck Doud
Creative Guy


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bogiesan
Re: How to get Clean Crisp Web Videos
on Feb 1, 2007 at 10:31:06 pm

Compression is a dark art. It's all about compromises; none of them are any good because the producer always loses.
If you want to get good at it, check amazon and go ahead and invest in any of the several compression books they have. Anything by Ben Waggoner is golden. Even if it's a few years old.


http://www.amazon.com/Compression-Great-Digital-Video-Techniques/dp/1578201...

http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Video-Compression-CD-ROM-Peter/dp/0071424873/...

http://www.amazon.com/Practical-Guide-Video-Audio-Compression/dp/0240806301...

http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Video-Compression-Stephen-Solari/dp/007059538...


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