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michael
Flip4MAc V's Popwiire WMV
on Jun 21, 2006 at 5:16:05 am

Has anyone compared encoding speed and quality
between Popwire over Flip4Mac for WMV encoding
out of FCP?

The reason being I am getting a Intel Mac and
because Flip4mac does not yet support intel macs
i need another solution fast.

cheers,


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Craig Seeman
Re: Flip4MAc V's Popwiire WMV
on Jun 21, 2006 at 12:39:18 pm

Flip4Mac Universal is in beta. Encoding times for version 2.1 should be many times faster than 2.0.2. I'll probably be doing speed tests on the next build or so as I'm a beta tester.

Keep in mind Flip4Mac has a range of products which can encode right on up to WMV HD. Flip4Mac can also wrap WMV in MOV (no compression loss) if you need to edit WMVs in FCP also.


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Johan S
Re: Flip4MAc V's Popwiire WMV
on Jun 21, 2006 at 5:47:31 pm

You are very welcome to our site, http://www.popwire.com and download Compression Master 4.0. - there is a lot of new features, codecs, formats
as well GUI enhancements.

the demo version will allow for 20 second jobs, but that will you a clue of the speed, as well giving you access to the very extended toolbox inside.
We are also introducing Flash 8 as a plug in.

all best

p.s one more thing...speed? yes it


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Daniel Weber
Re: Flip4MAc V's Popwiire WMV
on Jun 21, 2006 at 9:09:18 pm

When will you be adding Flash 8? I am looking for software to do flash videos with and looked on your site, but didn't notice any mention of flash 8 in your specs.

A timeline would be good to know. I need to be able to do this pretty quick.

Thanks,

Daniel Weber



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Johan S
Re: Flip4MAc V's Popwiire WMV
on Jun 21, 2006 at 9:32:05 pm

yes its there! look: http://www.popwire.com/product_info.php?cPath=1&products_id=48

Flash 8 is installed as a separate plug in , in Compression Master and Compression Engine.



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Daniel Weber
Re: Flip4MAc V's Popwiire WMV
on Jun 21, 2006 at 9:59:52 pm

Johan,

Thanks for the quick reply. Is this done using the ON2 codec?

Also does Compression Master allow for batch processing of multiple formats from the same clip?

Thanks,

Dan Weber



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Johan S
Flash 8 and Compression Master
on Jun 21, 2006 at 10:18:45 pm

yes we are using the On2 codec, together with our own pre-processesing filters.

Yes, Compression Master allows batch processing, and here is where
it gets interesting. If your workflow requires processing of a lot of files, you should look into Compression Engine. CE is a watch folder system, that can be extended with a cluster solution as well. Engine is even faster than Compression Master due to the fact that we allow the user to manually set the amount of jobs / CPU. - you can use a powermac quad and let all four cores handle one job each, ore one job split on all four cores. Trancoding to Real Surestream och WMV Intellistream where several streams are coded into one file will be very fast thanks to this.

These tools inside will make a difference when you tune you workflow for speed and throughput.

of course , both Compression Master and Compression Engine runs on Intel as well.






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Daniel Weber
Re: Flash 8 and Compression Master
on Jun 22, 2006 at 2:13:27 am

What is the difference between Compression Master and Compression Engine. I will be running this on one machine only. It is a dual processor G5.

Thanks,

Dan Weber



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Johan S
Compression Engine and Compression Master - the difference
on Jun 22, 2006 at 8:21:36 am

Compression Master is a desktop app where you add files and create settings as well as manually push the start transcoding button.

In our Compression Engine solution you receive Compression Master as well, but in this workflow you use Compression Master only to tune settings. these settings are then exported to any number of watch folders monitored by Compression Engine. These watch folder can f.x be resident on a shared storage. All media, single or multiple files, that are sent/uploaded/captured to a watch folder will be transcoded according to settings within, be it just one setting a or multiple ones. This an automatic workflow solution.

A very straight forward and powerful solution built around the OSX plattform

you can find more info on formas codecs and similiar at http://www.popwire.com

all best

johan


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michael
Re: Compression Engine and Compression Master - the difference
on Jun 22, 2006 at 9:13:46 am

not sure what happend to this post....

All I need is WMV encoding out of FCP on Intel MAC,
Supposedly popwire can does this fro a great price
but is the quality good? does it do 2 pass VBR?


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daniel_l
Re: Compression Engine and Compression Master - the difference
on Jun 22, 2006 at 9:57:48 am

Your post evolved and is the better for it.

Popwire can output great quality, it does 2 pass VBR and supports Intel Macs...The website has all that information, and more...only a few clicks away... http://www.popwire.com, you can even download it and try it out to see the quality and speed for yourself!!!

Video AllSorts


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michael
Re: Compression Engine and Compression Master - the difference
on Jun 27, 2006 at 3:57:37 am

It actually doesnt have 2pass VBR...

I have just purchased Popwires WMV component
and am disapointed with the lack of options..

I am using the DVD DL setting because I need the best quality
possible but find that motion is a problem.

I am working with sports footage with fast motion
and cant seem to get the settings right or find any
help on their website...

Will the keyframe settings help my cause?

Any ideas?





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daniel_l
Re: Compression Engine and Compression Master - the difference
on Jun 27, 2006 at 10:30:51 am

You were referring to 'Compression Master' and 'Compression Engine', not the 'WMV Component'.

Compression Master has 2pass VBR, the WMV Component only has 1 pass.

You bought the 'wrong' product; that second VBR pass available in CM could make all the difference in quality for you.

You might want to check out the manual for CM for some more help:

http://www.popwire.com/documents/manu/CM_4_0_1_Manual.pdf

(More keyframes can equal higher temporal quality at the expense of bigger files/higher data rate).

Good luck..



Video AllSorts


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Craig Seeman
Re: Compression Engine and Compression Master - the difference
on Jun 27, 2006 at 11:40:03 am

Flip4Mac Studio Pro HD does 2 Pass VBR, exports out of FCP (as well as QuicktimePro and Compressor) and costs a lot less than Compression Master (which has many more codecs but if you're just looking for WM 2 Pass VBR it may sufice). The Universal exporter should be ready in a fews weeks since it's already in beta.


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