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jay lee
Re:Windows Media Encoder "Green Output" when de-interlacing
on Sep 26, 2005 at 5:41:56 pm


Good morning,
I am utilizing windows media encoder hoping to get better quality WMV encodes than with Sorenson Squeeze. The output is excellent however when I attempt to encode with the de-interlace option (which as I understand is preferable for computer/web progressive playback) I get a totally bright green output. Color is fine with out de-int. but obviously contains fields.

Source material is 10Bit Quicktime Blackmagic Codec capured from Digibeta via SDI.

Any thoughts much appreciated.



Cheers,

J





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Ben Waggoner
Re: Re:Windows Media Encoder "Green Output" when de-interlacing
on Sep 26, 2005 at 11:03:28 pm

Windows Media Encoder doesn't support QuickTIme source files.

Canopus's ProCoder gives more of the twiddly features from WME than Squeeze, and has excellent support for QuickTime source files.


My Book: http://www.benwaggoner.com/books.htm
Squeeze and ProCoder tutorials: http://www.classondemand.net/benwaggoner/
Compression Class at Stanford: http://www.digitalmediaacademy.org/compression.html


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jay lee
Re: Re:Windows Media Encoder "Green Output" when de-interlacing
on Sep 26, 2005 at 11:12:40 pm

Thanks for your reply Ben. I 'dumped' ProCoder last year because of its tragic MPEG2 encoding quality. Perhaps it's time to revisit. Does ProCoder alow one to embedd meta data?
If Windows Media Encoder doesn't support QT source files why does it do such an oustanding job on my files as long as De-interlace is not checked?


Cheers,

J



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Ben Waggoner
Re: Re:Windows Media Encoder "Green Output" when de-interlacing
on Sep 26, 2005 at 11:19:29 pm

ProCoder is one of the best MPEG-2 encoders on the market - what problems were you having? I've certainly NEVER seen anything CLOSE to tragic out of it.

As for WME with .MOV source files, perhaps you've got some kind of QT/DirectShow bridge installed like QuickTime Alternative?

As for metadata, what do you want to include? Title and that kind of thing? If so, yes it does.


My Book: http://www.benwaggoner.com/books.htm
Squeeze and ProCoder tutorials: http://www.classondemand.net/benwaggoner/
Compression Class at Stanford: http://www.digitalmediaacademy.org/compression.html


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jay lee
Re: Re:Windows Media Encoder "Green Output" when de-interlacing
on Sep 26, 2005 at 11:34:36 pm

Are...I see. Thanks.
No matter how I 'tweaked' Procoder its MPEG2 output for me was totally unacceptable. I have made it a mission to test every MPEG2 encoder demo I can get my hands on. Since my reel (DVD) is my calling card I have attempted to make it as quality driven as possible.

I am a DP so I see my footage come straight of the Spirit and though the DaVinci 2K in all its 35mm glory in state of the art post bays so I guess my expectations from my own system are rather high. Sourcing from the digibetas 10Bit SDI via Decklink into AE for color correction.

Having only 12 or so commercials on my reel cramming bits is not the issue, simply the best encoding engine possible 8kbps CBR with Cinema Craft basic has yielded amazing results. The GUI is from the stone ages but the output excellent and for $68 hard to believe.

Cheers,

J





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Ben Waggoner
Re: Re:Windows Media Encoder "Green Output" when de-interlacing
on Sep 27, 2005 at 1:31:29 am

Cinemacraft isn't bad at all, but I'm able to consistently beat its results with ProCoder for DVD authoring.


My Book: http://www.benwaggoner.com/books.htm
Squeeze and ProCoder tutorials: http://www.classondemand.net/benwaggoner/
Compression Class at Stanford: http://www.digitalmediaacademy.org/compression.html


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jay lee
Re: Re:Windows Media Encoder "Green Output" when de-interlacing
on Sep 27, 2005 at 5:33:05 am

Thank you for your thoughts today Ben. Shall check out Procoder when poss.

Cheers,

J




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