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peter
Bitrate Limit for WM 7 on Cleaner 6?
on May 19, 2005 at 2:31:27 pm

Does anyone know off hand if 1600Kb/sec is the limit for WM 7 out of Cleaner 6? Is it because quality won't be any better with that codec the higher the bitrate?

I get an "unsupported bitrate" error when I push the bitrate (audio and video combined) past 1600Kb.

I think it's time to buy Flip4Mac....

Thanks in advance.


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Ben Waggoner
Re: Bitrate Limit for WM 7 on Cleaner 6?
on May 22, 2005 at 1:35:41 am

I consider the whole Windows Media functionality in Cleaner unsupported, honestly.

If you want to make decent WM on Mac, you're better off using either Flip4Mac or Compression Master.

If you want to make backwards compatible WMV7 codec files, you're better off doing it on Windows.


My Book: http://www.benwaggoner.com/books.htm
Squeeze and ProCoder tutorials: http://www.classondemand.net/benwaggoner/
Compression Class at Stanford: http://www.digitalmediaacademy.org/compression.html


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mark fassett
Re: Bitrate Limit for WM 7 on Cleaner 6?
on May 29, 2005 at 8:38:56 pm

I know you're quite an expert Ben, but I have been utilizing cleaner to create wmv7 video for many years, and it worked perfectly on the enterprise level. Granted, wm9 gets better video at half the data rate, but my customers (corporate communications, internal) are more than happy with wmv7.

Now I am distributing wm9 now as a result of buying flip4mac, but I haven't heard a single person (among over 6000 who view my productions) comment.

I know you probably know far more about this than I do, but the combination of black restore, contrast, and gamma correction are your friends when creating good wm7 video. :)



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Ben Waggoner
Re: Bitrate Limit for WM 7 on Cleaner 6?
on May 29, 2005 at 8:49:04 pm

I'm glad to hear you've found a combination of options that works, but lots of numbers you can type into the WMV7 UI can result in corrupt files. Also, even if you're targeting WMV7, if you encode with a Windows tool like ProCoder, you can use the much better, backwards compatible WMA9. And of course, Intelligent Streaming for WMV7 is only available on Windows.


My Book: http://www.benwaggoner.com/books.htm
Squeeze and ProCoder tutorials: http://www.classondemand.net/benwaggoner/
Compression Class at Stanford: http://www.digitalmediaacademy.org/compression.html


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