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constanti dinu
3d null on a cc sphere on a specific place while the globe rotates
on Feb 19, 2018 at 3:38:27 pm

hi, i'm having trouble with my project and i need your help.

i have an earth (cc sphere), and i want to put a 3d null on any country i chose. then i want to rotate and move the globe however i want it and the null will stay on that country.

i have an earth globe (with cc sphere), placed a 3d center null in the center of the globe, placed another 3d pin null , linked the z pozition to the earth radius (with the minus symbol), linked the pin null to the center null . On the center null i've linked the x,y,z rotation to the rotation of the globe and the x, y position to the offset of the cc.

so far, so good, the pin null moves and rotates along with the earth.

the problem is that i want to take that null and place it somewhere else. so i have made another 3d null named rotation null, place it in the center just like the center null, parent the rotation null to the center null and parent the pin null to the rotation null.

to be clear:

the center null helps the pin null to rotate and move same time with the earth. the rotation null helps the pin null to move independently on the surface of the earth. works like a charm.

the problem is that:
the rotation null moves the pin null based on the rotation. if i rotate the rotation null on x, it moves the pin null on the meridian of the globe (ex: from the north pole to the south pole perfectly). if i rotate the rotation null on y, it move the pin null on the ecuator of the earth (ex: from left to right). if i start to rotate both the x and y , it starts to move the pin null on the globe (which is alright), but in a way that i don't like it, based on a curve. because the x plane of the rotation null is rotated, by default the y plane is also rotated. so when i start to rotate the y plane as well, the pin dosent move on a parallel line of the earth but in a curved way.


any solution on that? idealy, i would like to add a point control effect and to link the rotation to that point control, so when i place the crosshair of the point control anywhere on the globe, it will use the x,y, z rotation of the pin in such way that will place the pin where the crosshair is. i'm trying to figure out an expression on that, but no luck here.


any solution on this matter?
(btw, i have tried to use the position and orientation of the pin null to move it using some trigonometric expressions but it's hell).
i have attached the project as well (cs5)

Thank you very much to anyone who try to help with is!


this is the project:
https://f1.creativecow.net/12185/12185


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Dave LaRonde
Re: 3d null on a cc sphere on a specific place while the globe rotates
on Feb 19, 2018 at 4:04:08 pm

This isn't going to work. CC Sphere does NOT create true 3D -- the effect is designed to be used on a 2D layer, giving only the illusion of 3D.
You can demonstrate this to yourself -- apply CC Sphere to a layer, make the layer 3D and rotate it on the x or y axis. It behaves like a postcard of a sphere and not a real sphere.

Long story short -- you'll have to come up with a Plan B if you want to continue using CC Sphere.

Dave LaRonde
Promotion Producer
KGAN (CBS) & KFXA (Fox) Cedar Rapids, IA


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constanti dinu
Re: 3d null on a cc sphere on a specific place while the globe rotates
on Feb 20, 2018 at 10:25:57 am

thank you for your answer. yes, i know how the cc sphere functions, but i've managed to place a 3d null on the surface of the earth and move it independently on the surface of the globe. and when the earth moves, the pin stays on the specific country. the problem i have is that i have to use rotations controls to move the null, and that makes the null to move in a circular kind of way and not vertical+horizontal. i will post an exemplification on youtube and show what i mean


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Richard Garabedain
Re: 3d null on a cc sphere on a specific place while the globe rotates
on Feb 19, 2018 at 4:09:36 pm

It was hard to follow exactly what is going on, But you have a coupld of nulls to animate the camera moving goth vertically and horizontally over the earth.. I would animate the camera moving as well to help smooth over those strange movements. ..And if that does not work perhaps use less animation on your nulls and more on your camera. Once you have two position points on a camera, its nice to go to the top view, using the pen tool Like you would a mask path, turn those straight camera paths into rounding arcs around your earth.


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constanti dinu
Re: 3d null on a cc sphere on a specific place while the globe rotates
on Feb 20, 2018 at 10:23:31 am

thank you for your answer. i dont need the use of a camera, i need a 3d null to be moved anywhere on the visible surface of the globe, and if i rotate or move the globe itself, the null should stay on the country i placed it. like a pin on the map. just that the map is a cc sphere earth


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constanti dinu
Re: 3d null on a cc sphere on a specific place while the globe rotates
on Feb 20, 2018 at 10:52:45 am

this is the video i have made regarding the issue








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Cassius Marques
Re: 3d null on a cc sphere on a specific place while the globe rotates
on Feb 20, 2018 at 1:10:35 pm

Try to create one null for each axis to avoid any gimbal issues, link X null to Y null and that to Z null...

Cassius Marques
http://www.zapfilmes.com


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constanti dinu
Re: 3d null on a cc sphere on a specific place while the globe rotates
on Feb 20, 2018 at 2:43:16 pm

you are genius! thanks a lot!


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Albert Kowalski
Re: 3d null on a cc sphere on a specific place while the globe rotates
on Mar 2, 2018 at 12:07:21 pm

Hey constanti! Could you upload a project after you made those last changes with separate nulls? I can't get it to work. Thanks!


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