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Ehsan Shabani
Same Again -___-
on Aug 23, 2016 at 3:11:55 pm

Hi.
I've read thousand articles about my problem and still I can't find an answer!

I created a 3D light source according to this tutorial by Mr Kramer.

Now I want to replace the text with my element 3D model (which is just a logo)

many many problems here and I don't know what to do!
I'm sure its because of some settings or some options which I don't know!

When i check the 3D layer option in layers, my shape turns to something really awful :|

Pls help me with this project !

an screenshot of my terrible project :D
https://i.imgsafe.org/c665b8a105.png


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Michael Szalapski
Re: Same Again -___-
on Aug 23, 2016 at 3:21:46 pm

What does your layer look like before you turn it 3d? What are you trying to do? What tutorial are you following? How did you create your logo?

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Ehsan Shabani
Re: Same Again -___-
on Aug 23, 2016 at 3:33:14 pm

Thanks for response and taking care this much!
My logo look normal before turing to 3D. when I turn it to 3D it turns uncompatible with camera!
and when i move the camera, it stretchs from the front side to the camera angle !

-what is exactly on my mind is in this intro by WB :






*watch the seconds between 40'' to 50''

-I want to show my logo (instead of "THE LEGEND OF THE GUARDIAN" with a sun like light source behind it (with light rays crossing the logo characters) and moving the camera around the logo.

-I just followed this tutorial by Mr Kramer (sorry i forgot to put the link)







-I created 2D logo with photoshop and made it 3D with element 3D.


I'm here if some other informations is needed.

thank you again


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Michael Szalapski
Re: Same Again -___-
on Aug 23, 2016 at 3:40:09 pm

You can't make your layer 3d if you're also using Element on it. Element must be applied to a 2d layer only.

Now, if the tutorial won't work with a 2d layer, you can precompose your logo (making sure to move all attributes into the precomp. THEN you can make it 3d and it will react more like you expect.

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Ehsan Shabani
Re: Same Again -___-
on Aug 23, 2016 at 4:02:34 pm

Didn't work :(

looks like precomposing it and making it 3D , removes the element 3D and just shows the my PSD layer itself.
other option didn't work too.

what should I do with this?


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Michael Szalapski
Re: Same Again -___-
on Aug 23, 2016 at 4:16:40 pm

What?
That doesn't make any sense.
Oh! Wait, you also need to have the camera in the precomp pointed at the logo where you want it.

Look, it sounds like you are jumping in WAY over your head. You should really consider taking a step back and learning the basics of how AE works first before trying something like this.

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Ehsan Shabani
Re: Same Again -___-
on Aug 23, 2016 at 4:33:38 pm

I know the basics.
I created second camera and precomposed it with the logo.
but I faced some other problems and questions!

a 2D layer can't accept lights, cast shadows and ...
as you know these options don't work with a 2D layer and 3D layer doen't work with element plugin :D

I think I have to find some other way to make this project done.

can you help me please?


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Walter Soyka
Re: Same Again -___-
on Aug 23, 2016 at 4:47:17 pm

Remember that Element is really a 2D effect that renders a scene from the same perspective as the comp camera. It cannot interact with Ae's 3D features like intersections and lights.

If I understand your problem correctly, you need a 3D layer to interact with the scene as Andrew describes in the tutorial, plus a 2D Element layer to interact with the camera.

I'd suggest that you enable your mask source layer, make it 3D, and align it perfectly with Element model. In Element, create a Group Null for the logo. Make the 3D mask source layer a child of the Group Null -- now you've got one control for animating the position of both the 3D mask source layer and the Element group, so you can move them together. The 3D mask source layer will interact with the scene, casting shadows in Ae's 3D space, and the Element layer will provide the depth and texture you're looking for, and will (hopefully) completely cover the underlying 3D mask source layer.

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