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Bas v Breugel
Colour changes after vimeo upload
on Aug 8, 2016 at 3:13:55 pm

Hi all,

So I have this solid layer with the color #00EAD0 (hex).

Wenn I render it and view it with VLC no problemo.

But wenn uploaded to vimeo https://vimeo.com/178028794 the color is changed very much.

See difference (top printscreen vimeo, bottom printscreen after effects)


I renderd a h264 quicktime.

Any thoughest what could be leading to this?

Thank you ,

Bas


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Walter Soyka
Re: Colour changes after vimeo upload
on Aug 8, 2016 at 6:06:12 pm

I'd suggest you try avoid QuickTime and Apple's H.264 compressor. Try one of Adobe Media Encoder's Vimeo presets, either by rendering to a high-quality intermediate from After Effects and then encoding, or by encoding the Ae comp in AME directly.

Walter Soyka
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Eric Santiago
Re: Colour changes after vimeo upload
on Aug 8, 2016 at 9:40:04 pm

Walter what do you suggest as a high quality intermediate?

I think off ProRes4444 when I read that :)

Overkill?


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Dave LaRonde
Re: Colour changes after vimeo upload
on Aug 8, 2016 at 9:46:49 pm

ProRes 422 is also a good choice. It can withstand 6 generations of re-compressing without visible image loss. ProRes 4444 gives you much larger file sizes.
And there's also Photo JPEG, JPEG 2000, PNG and Animation.

Dave LaRonde
Promotion Producer
KGAN (CBS) & KFXA (Fox) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Walter Soyka
Re: Colour changes after vimeo upload
on Aug 9, 2016 at 6:46:10 pm

[Eric Santiago] "Walter what do you suggest as a high quality intermediate? I think off ProRes4444 when I read that :) Overkill?"

Not as much overkill as the OpenEXR sequences we use a lot! :)

The appropriate intermediate really depends on what you're doing next. ProRes 4444 is probably overkill if you're just going to use it to make an H.264 where ProRes 422 as Dave suggests would do just fine, but it might be completely appropriate if you're taking something with alpha to editorial.

We like CineForm over ProRes for cross-platform, Adobe-oriented work.

Walter Soyka
Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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Bas v Breugel
Re: Colour changes after vimeo upload
on Aug 9, 2016 at 7:49:50 am

Hi guys,

Thanks for your input.

I have tried the Vimeo HD preset in Adobe Media Encoder (added straight from within AE)
Quicktime - photo jpg
Quicktime - Prores 422

And tried to check and uncheck the box "Preserve RGB" in the Color Management tab in Output Render settings.

But all with the same result.

Strange thing is, wenn uploaded to vimeo, and wenn I chose a thumbnail the thumbnail is the right color, only after hitting the play button the video starts and the colour changes.



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Bas v Breugel
Re: Colour changes after vimeo upload
on Aug 9, 2016 at 7:54:07 am

Oooh wait.... this is strange..

I just check on a Imac next door and their there is no change in color between thumbnail and video.

So this only happens on Dell monitor?


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Walter Soyka
Re: Colour changes after vimeo upload
on Aug 9, 2016 at 6:48:39 pm

[Bas v Breugel] "Oooh wait.... this is strange.. I just check on a Imac next door and their there is no change in color between thumbnail and video. So this only happens on Dell monitor?"

This suggests a color-management issue on the offending computer. There are a lot of variables here, and you will not be able to guarantee that all computers will display the color correctly. Different OSes, different browsers, different GPUs, and different monitor profiles can all affect color rendition.

Walter Soyka
Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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