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Dave LaRonde
Thanks For Nothing, Apple -- you F***ed Up Quicktime!
on Apr 15, 2016 at 10:30:37 pm

If you haven't heard, the US Department of Homeland Security (!) is recommending that everyone delete the Apple Quicktime player for WINDOWS (not Mac) due to porous, ransomware/phishing/malware-friendly code.

And apparently Apple intends to do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to fix it.

Since there are a lot of Windows AE users -- myself included -- who rely heavily on Quicktime, this sounds like a nightmare waiting to happen.

Now, not all hope is lost. Apparently there is a workaround involving only certain bits of Quicktime, but I don't have it. I guess it means you could MAKE QT's, but not view them.... ain't that convenient? Perhaps some kind soul will pass it along anyway.

No FCP 8... that horrific FCPX instead... premature and immediate discontinuation of support for FCP 7... now serious security issues in QT Win. Apple's starting to sound as lame as Adobe.

Them stinkin' lousy scum bags at Apple....

Dave LaRonde
Promotion Producer
KGAN (CBS) & KFXA (Fox) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Claude Rozsa
Re: Thanks For Nothing, Apple -- you F***ed Up Quicktime!
on Apr 16, 2016 at 1:27:46 am

Really Dave I'me surprised by your reaction. When a company for years has done everything to prevent its customers to have easy transferable and compatible files between different OS platforms, what do you expect from it when the trend of their success is progressively slowing not to say going down. they try to keep their customers tied up especially after the recent problems with their last OS version as I could see on the Adobe's Forums.

I'm not a professional of your business but I remember all the problems that my Bank in Paris had between our different departments and the Portfolio management one which had equipped its staff with Apple computers. The latter had infringed the rule of the company of not using Macs and the result was it was impossible to transfer any files between us!


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Michael Szalapski
Re: Thanks For Nothing, Apple -- you F***ed Up Quicktime!
on Apr 16, 2016 at 4:27:04 am

You can probably resolve the QuickTime on Windows security vulnerability by reinstalling QT without the Player.

1. In your add / remove programs, uninstall QT player completely.

2. Go to the apple QT installer download page and grab the latest package for Windows

3. During install, make sure that everything except the "critical components" is NOT installed. (Xed out). Leave the top option for install only (something like "media for third party apps" - this is the codecs only)

4. Install as normal

Probable that you may need to install any third party codecs, like DNxHD/HR, after this.

I'm in Las Vegas right now for NAB. Any time I come here, I'm reminded how Apple stopped showing here a number of years ago which was a portent of things to come.

- The Great Szalam
(The 'Great' stands for 'Not So Great, in fact, Extremely Humble')

No trees were harmed in the creation of this message, but several thousand electrons were mildly inconvenienced.


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Claude Rozsa
Re: Thanks For Nothing, Apple -- you F***ed Up Quicktime!
on Apr 16, 2016 at 7:07:29 am

T Hanks for the tip Michael, but I dont need QuickTime, I dont use it for creating clips. For my VideoCopilot clips in Action Essentials I can check the content with VLC. Of course the problem is it not fluid.The problem is that clip's titles are not explicit of what they really do. They use numbers ie fire1 fire2 etc!!! Very practical to know really what is the kind of fire you have to decide to use! I just cant understand this coming from professionals. When I used to develop my financial softwares with APL+ every file or variable or subprogram had a title giving an explicite idea of its use or content. "Elementary my dear Watson"!LOL!


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Claude Rozsa
Re: Thanks For Nothing, Apple -- you F***ed Up Quicktime!
on Apr 16, 2016 at 8:26:12 am

I've just discovered that uninstalling quicktime completely has Mocha Plus crashing or more precisely not any more recognizing my mp4 files declaring them corrupted although I can use them without problem in AE and PrPro! Thanks Apple! my mistrust of this company was justified and dates back to more than 20 years!


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Tero Ahlfors
Re: Thanks For Nothing, Apple -- you F***ed Up Quicktime!
on Apr 16, 2016 at 10:55:23 pm

5. Don't download shady videos from the internet and/or watch your porn on VLC.


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Claude Rozsa
Re: Thanks For Nothing, Apple -- you F***ed Up Quicktime!
on Apr 17, 2016 at 12:07:35 am

[Tero Ahlfors] "5. Don't download shady videos from the internet and/or watch your porn on VLC.
"


Before saying stupid things, ask yourself why I may have the use of VLC. The use of VLC is mandatory for the software ADSLTV to enable me to get access on my computer to the TV channels I get through my internet provider Free.Fr these include also the radio. I have not anymore if I had it the age to watch shady videos as you say! So please a little respect is mandatory and if you think you did some humorist remark you're quite wrong and I'm not in the mood for such.


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Tero Ahlfors
Re: Thanks For Nothing, Apple -- you F***ed Up Quicktime!
on Apr 17, 2016 at 3:58:19 pm

[Claude Rozsa] "So please a little respect is mandatory and if you think you did some humorist remark you're quite wrong and I'm not in the mood for such."

I really don't care what kind of TV you're watching with what software. What I'm saying is: you need to run a Quicktime movie that would have some malevolent code in it for the QT vulnerability to be an issue. If you are working in a professional environment there's a chance you will never encounter these kind of malevolent files. If you are downloading random videos from the net and watch them on Quicktime then you have the chance to get into trouble.


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raphael grana
Re: Thanks For Nothing, Apple -- you F***ed Up Quicktime!
on Apr 16, 2016 at 6:30:00 am

I agree 100% with you Dave. This decision is outrageous and shows how arrogant and contemptuous Apple is towards its customers. I'm an old FCP user who's still recovering from FCPX and my inevitable move to Premiere (which I use on a daily bases and still hate every single second I use it, still better than FCPX), but as everyone else I still rely on Quicktime for the Adobe suite, especially for After Effects that I use even more then Premiere (thank God!). So now I'm suppose to wait for my computer to be attacked - OR - to just forget about my ten years backed up projects and basically half of the features of the Creative Suite? I'm supposed to transcode every single rushes I receive, you know that 10 hours long shot where I need the 4min interview in the middle, I'll just take half a day of computer time just to be able to do my edit in 15 min. Clients are going to love this...

Apple has gone from a warm comforting friend to an evil bitch who nags you violently from time to time.


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Claude Rozsa
Re: Thanks For Nothing, Apple -- you F***ed Up Quicktime!
on Apr 16, 2016 at 9:44:13 am

Raphael as a retired financial analyst again this was coming from the very beginning and I foresaw it.

May I remind you that book "the Pirates of the Silicon Valley". It gives you from the start the insight of the mentality of those implied in the book which they could not deny.

I remember in Paris, I think it was in 1985, the arrogance and contempt of the Microsoft team presenting WIN85 at the main auditorium of the Conference hall in Paris, the same goes for Apple.

The result is what we see today.

For windows 10 you're obliged to abide to their EULA and not being able anymore to decide whatever update suits you. Worst If you don't update to Windows 10 and uninstall the KB3035583 file you're regularly again presented with it and it doesn't say that it is for the upgrade to windows 10!

This is a question of Ethics! But the word and its meaning seems to be forgotten nowadays in the world of business.

Today Apple decides not to ensure the security updates for the windows users. Same behavior, same consequences. And as Michael Szalapski says "You can probably resolve the QuickTime on Windows security vulnerability by reinstalling QT without the Player."
."Probably" this means it's not sure!!!

Many thanks to the "warm comforting friend"....


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Paul Fisherman
Re: Thanks For Nothing, Apple -- you F***ed Up Quicktime!
on Apr 16, 2016 at 2:20:58 pm

BS! I always hated Apple, but man oh man have they crossed the limits with this garbage! Not to mention I always render my clips as .mov so screw you Apple! Anybody wanna help me resurrect Steve Jobs for this??

"It's all around us Neo, temporary constructs of time....."


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Claude Rozsa
Re: Thanks For Nothing, Apple -- you F***ed Up Quicktime!
on Apr 16, 2016 at 3:56:44 pm

[Paul Fisherman] ""It's all around us Neo, temporary constructs of time.....""

No Thanks! Once is enough!LoL!


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Graham Quince
Re: Thanks For Nothing, Apple -- you F***ed Up Quicktime!
on Apr 17, 2016 at 9:50:35 am

Is there any word from Adobe on what end to do to support their products?

Ultimately Adobe shouldn't be relying on a third-party solution for After Effects.

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Graham Quince
Re: Thanks For Nothing, Apple -- you F***ed Up Quicktime!
on Apr 17, 2016 at 9:54:34 am

Answering my own question, here's a statement on Adobe's blog:

https://blogs.adobe.com/creativecloud/quicktime-on-windows/

I read this as "we'll fix it as soon as we can". No advice on what to do in the meantime though.


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enrique bartolo
Re: Thanks For Nothing, Apple -- you F***ed Up Quicktime!
on Apr 19, 2016 at 8:13:59 am

Has anyone tried the steps the TC suggested? I seriously hope this gets fixed as soon as possible......


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Claude Rozsa
Re: Thanks For Nothing, Apple -- you F***ed Up Quicktime!
on Apr 19, 2016 at 8:34:54 am

What is the TC ? Cant anyone stop using abreviation all the time and talk plain and understandable English!


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enrique bartolo
Re: Thanks For Nothing, Apple -- you F***ed Up Quicktime!
on Apr 19, 2016 at 5:44:28 pm

My apologies then. What I meant was that if Mr Michael Szalapski's solution were tried by anyone else and became successful. Also I thought he was the TC (Thread Creator) but it was actually Mr Dave LeRonde.


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Claude Rozsa
Re: Thanks For Nothing, Apple -- you F***ed Up Quicktime!
on Apr 19, 2016 at 10:31:13 pm

Actually I Tried Mickael's method. Apparently it worked although I'm not completely sure I did all the right thing as the setup commands are given in French on my computer (I'm in Paris) and as usual they differ from the original wording. Anyway I enabled to recover a nearly complete Mocha Plus working ok. I have a problem when I load a mp4 directly from the AE link. I must solve that with Mary Poplin when she returns from NAB. For the moment the solution I found is to re-encode with Media Encoder in the mp4 format again. Otherwise no picture would appear in Mocha plus 4.3. Maybe there is a codec missing in my new installation. For the other CC2014 program I use, I have no problem up to now (AE -PrPro-Photoshop). I must precise that I'm not a professional and use those software for my pleasure.


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