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Mac Caudill
Clone Stamp tracking - when track point is NOWHERE near the clone stamp?
on Apr 22, 2014 at 9:50:56 pm

Clone stamp tracking seems to be easy & straightforward when the track point is the same as the clone stamp target like in this video:

https://www.video2brain.com/en/lessons/removing-an-object-with-clone-stamp

Can you tell me what you do if the track point is nowhere near the clone/paint target area? In my case, I have a clone effect that needs to be tracked, but my best track point is on the other side of the frame. I found this thread which suggests using expressions but they don't work:

http://forums.adobe.com/thread/801560

Is there an "offset" setting or a way to do this in AE without using mocha?


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Ross Shain
Re: Clone Stamp tracking - when track point is NOWHERE near the clone stamp?
on Apr 22, 2014 at 11:54:37 pm

Why not use mocha? As long as the movement you are tracking is moving on a "relative plane", it is quite simple to do a quick track in mocha and apply it to a Null to create an offset track.

Good luck,
R

Ross Shain
Imagineer Systems
http://www.imagineersystems.com


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Mac Caudill
Re: Clone Stamp tracking - when track point is NOWHERE near the clone stamp?
on Apr 23, 2014 at 12:17:14 am

Can't afford to buy Mocha at this point. Was hoping AE would be able to handle it.


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Ross Shain
Re: Clone Stamp tracking - when track point is NOWHERE near the clone stamp?
on Apr 23, 2014 at 12:27:11 am

I hope you can afford free... mocha AE has been bundled free with AE since CS4.

If you are running CS6 or CC, simply select a layer and go to Animation menu> track in mocha AE.

If you are running CS4 or CS5 you will find the mocha AE application inside your AE application folder.

- enjoy!

Ross Shain
Imagineer Systems
http://www.imagineersystems.com


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Roland R. Kahlenberg
Re: Clone Stamp tracking - when track point is NOWHERE near the clone stamp?
on Apr 23, 2014 at 12:28:26 am

If the source for the clone moves in a different manner to the target then you will need to track them separately. An Expression can only help if the movement can be described in a simple linear manner.

Otherwise, a separate track is required and it's really no different from tracking the target for the clone routine.

HTH
RoRK
Latest AE Workshop - MoGraph Intensity - Shapes & Text

Intensive mocha & AE Training in Singapore and Other Dangerous Locations

Adobe After Effects CC ACE/ACI
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Mac Caudill
Re: Clone Stamp tracking - when track point is NOWHERE near the clone stamp?
on Apr 23, 2014 at 1:06:35 am

Thanks for the tips! I'm running CS4 so I'll have to check the folder. Hopefully this will do it. Thanks!


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Mac Caudill
Re: Clone Stamp tracking - when track point is NOWHERE near the clone stamp?
on Apr 24, 2014 at 7:39:15 am

I tried using Mocha for CS4 and it won't import any clips. I simply select NEW PROJECT. Then browse to the .mov clip I'm trying to track. I made sure the frame rate was correct (23.976) and nothing but black shows up in the mocha window/viewer. I tried a few other QT files which play fine in FCP, Avid and After Effects. Same thing: just a black screen. Wondering, is this version of mocha too old to work with a MacPro tower?


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Ross Shain
Re: Clone Stamp tracking - when track point is NOWHERE near the clone stamp?
on Apr 24, 2014 at 2:15:48 pm

Older version (mocha AE CS4) may not support all formats. Simply convert your clip to a jpeg sequence.

This tech note will help: http://www.imagineersystems.com/support/Documentation/supported-file-format....

Ross Shain
Imagineer Systems
http://www.imagineersystems.com


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Mac Caudill
Re: Clone Stamp tracking - when track point is NOWHERE near the clone stamp?
on Apr 24, 2014 at 7:55:55 pm

Yikes! I just figured QT was pretty standard. I'll try a conversion tonight and see what happens. Thanks so much for bearing with me!


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Mac Caudill
Re: Clone Stamp tracking - when track point is NOWHERE near the clone stamp?
on Apr 26, 2014 at 7:46:57 am

I exported an image seq out of AE. However, mocha doesn't recognize it as a "sequence" and only lets me import one still of the sequence. Actually the only format that my version of mocha recognizes is a "dv stream" which isn't going to work (project is HD). I'm guessing that version of mocha was a beta version or something, with limited capabilities.


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Roland R. Kahlenberg
Re: Clone Stamp tracking - when track point is NOWHERE near the clone stamp?
on Apr 27, 2014 at 12:29:16 am

Go to this page http://www.imagineersystems.com/download-legacy-view
and check that you have the most recent update for your version of mochaAE.


HTH
RoRK
Latest AE Workshop - MoGraph Intensity - Shapes & Text

Intensive mocha & AE Training in Singapore and Other Dangerous Locations

Adobe After Effects CC ACE/ACI
Imagineer Systems (mocha) Certified Instructor


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