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Sarah Bright
Looking into shared FCP media storage?
on Jun 6, 2011 at 3:52:22 pm

Hi, our company is expanding very quickly and we're looking into a reliable unity/ san to store out media.

We run FCP 7 suits... I've had experience with Avid Unity, Lanshare (FCP and Avid) and SAN (Just FCP)...

Can you advise on the best to go with that is reliable?
We had problems with the San crashing quite a few times. Is there another one we could use?

I'm putting together a budget and stuff for the boss to look over. As much info/ links as possible would be a brilliant help.

Thanks


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Nate Cooper
Re: Looking into shared FCP media storage?
on Jun 6, 2011 at 5:02:52 pm

Hey Sarah,

There are lots of great options out there:

http://www.getactivestorage.com/ using http://www.apple.com/xsan/ $$$
http://www.facilis.com/ $$
http://www.studionetworksolutions.com/ $$
http://www.promax.com/Solutions/ShareMAXOverview/ $

Generally, you’re best off finding a good local reseller to help guide you through the Pro’s and Con’s. There are TON’s of options out there, these are the options I’ve seen the happiest clients with.

If you want to get into more details on recommendations the following info helps:

- What resolutions are you working with?
- How much storage do you need?
- What is your budget range?
- Are there other applications that will need to be used by this SAN (Avid, AE, Scratch, etc. etc.)
- Do you value simplicity or features more?

Best,

Nate Cooper
nate.cooper@promax.com
949.375.2738

Scuba Dive? http://www.postproductiondivers.com/


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Sarah Bright
Re: Looking into shared FCP media storage?
on Jun 6, 2011 at 5:38:28 pm

Awesome reply... Thank you :D

- What resolutions are you working with? - Mostly DVCPro HD 1080i50
- How much storage do you need? - Hard to judge, I would guess we're currently using about 14TB per production... and we have 5 productions.
- What is your budget range? - Not sure yet.
- Are there other applications that will need to be used by this SAN (Avid, AE, Scratch, etc. etc.)... Not really. Just FCP and Pro Tools, Photoshop etc.
- Do you value simplicity or features more? Hmmmm, personally.. Either. Our editors are well trained so it doesn't need to be simple.

x


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Mohammed Ali
Re: Looking into shared FCP media storage?
on Jun 7, 2011 at 12:56:59 pm

Hi Sarah

I work for a distributor who are specifically focused within this arena. We are distributors for various solutions which would be of interest such as Active Storage, Small Tree Communications, CalDigit, Enhance Technology and i would like to discuss your requirements further and put you in touch with key dealers who would be able to deal with your enquiry.

Please call me on 01753 502683

Kind regards
Mohammed


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Dave Barnard
Re: Looking into shared FCP media storage?
on Jun 12, 2011 at 10:36:41 pm

Pro Tools can be a problem when working with a SAN designed for video, it brings its own particular requirements that often cause problems.

If you would like advice on your SAN from an independent film & broadcast post production consultancy based in London, give me a shout!

An example of work - http://www.apple.com/uk/pro/profiles/talkbackthames/

Dave Barnard
dave@cinedigital.co.uk



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Bob Zelin
Re: Looking into shared FCP media storage?
on Jun 6, 2011 at 5:40:21 pm

Hi Sarah -

you have to give us some info first -
FCP only ?
AVID only ?
Mixture of FCP and AVID ?
How much storage do you need (16 TB, 32 TB, 48 TB ?)

You say that you have had problems with the SAN crashing that you have right now - exactly what do you have right now ?

And where are you located - in the US, or Europe ?

Bob Zelin



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Bob Zelin
Re: Looking into shared FCP media storage?
on Jun 6, 2011 at 5:42:20 pm

Hi Sarah -
I think you are in England, correct ? I think that Nate would LOVE to fly to England to install his system for you !

Bob Zelin



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Sarah Bright
Re: Looking into shared FCP media storage?
on Jun 6, 2011 at 9:15:04 pm

Used SAN at my other place... here we only use external drives. Well annoying.
And yes... in England x


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Nate Cooper
Re: Looking into shared FCP media storage?
on Jun 7, 2011 at 12:55:44 am

Sarah,

Bob is right, I would love to fly to the UK, unfortunately my dog daisy get's rather upset when I'm gone for too long.

You should give the guys over at Academia a call, Tony Dickie is over there (he used to own 1080p, really knows his stuff).

All 4 of those options I mentioned earlier are good ones to look at. Performance wise since you're doing DVC Pro HD fibre channel or GigE will both work fine, unless you're doing crazy multicam workflows... then you'll need fibre.

Xsan might be push-pull to the SAN, unless you're using Pro Tools 9, they just recently started opening up to file-locking SANs as valid audio drives. I'm not sure if Pro Tools 9 will work direct with Xsan, if anyone else knows this, please chime in.

Nate


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Mohammed Ali
Re: Looking into shared FCP media storage?
on Jun 7, 2011 at 1:03:41 pm

Hi Sarah

I work for Channel Dynamics Distribution Ltd and Academia (Tony Dickie) is one of our clients. Unfortunately he is currently off work at the minute and i would like to get you in touch with his colleagues.

Please call me on 01753 502683 to discuss.

Many thanks
Mohammed


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Sarah Bright
Re: Looking into shared FCP media storage?
on Jun 7, 2011 at 2:40:10 pm

Thanks guys...

I've given all the info to my bosses. They're having a meeting about it all this week.

Shall indeed give you a call if they decide to go with this.

Thanks

Sarah


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Mohammed Ali
Re: Looking into shared FCP media storage?
on Jun 7, 2011 at 2:47:17 pm

Hi Sarah

There are several options you can go with but i would recommend either Active Storage or Small Tree Communications depending on certain requirements and budget.

Look forward to talking to you.

Many thanks
Mohammed


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Caspian Brand
Re: Looking into shared FCP media storage?
on Jun 7, 2011 at 5:18:58 pm

Hi Sarah,

If you're using DVCPRO HD, you can likely be well served by an all Gigabit Ethernet (GbE) system, and save on the expense of a Fibre network.

Our EVO Storage Server is capable of being configured as an all GbE solution or a mix of GbE and Fibre if desired.

You can read more about it here:

http://www.studionetworksolutions.com/products/product_detail.php?pi=12

MediaPros is one of our premier resellers in the UK, and although Tony might be out of the office apparently, you can always ring them and ask for James Dancer as well.

You can ring them on:

0208 400 9400

Best Regards,
-Caspian

Product Specialist
Studio Network Solutions


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Steve Modica
Re: Looking into shared FCP media storage?
on Jun 22, 2011 at 1:13:14 pm

Gosh, I'm late to the party.
I like Small Tree, but that's just me :)

Steve Modica
CTO, Small Tree Communications


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Duncan Beattie
Re: Looking into shared FCP media storage?
on Jul 14, 2011 at 9:57:04 am

Hi Sarah

I have just seen your post and wondered if anything has been signed off yet.

We are a Video Solutions Reseller with over 10 Years experience in SAN on both Fibre and Ethernet and have some very cost effective and fast central storage systems for FCP.

These systems work without client software licensing and over Gigabit Ethernet so no expensive infrastructure needed.

Would be great to have a chat and send you over some information.

Hopefully speak soon.

yours

Duncan

Duncan Beattie
Storage Integration Specialist
Videorescue Ltd
0845 555 9999


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