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Eric Jurgenson
cross-platform SAN/NAS friendly to iMacs, laptops?
on Nov 19, 2010 at 1:38:46 pm

According to info I am picking up on this forum, cross-platform (Mac/Win) shared video storage doesn't work well in a NAS configuration because the Apple implimentation of SMB has issues.

But in a SAN configuration (MetaSAN iSCSI), you need a second network connection for metadata, which makes it difficult (though not impossible if you use a USB network adaptor) to attach iMac and laptop clients.

Has anybody tried this?


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Eric Jurgenson
Re: cross-platform SAN/NAS friendly to iMacs, laptops?
on Nov 19, 2010 at 1:59:55 pm

Are there XFS (Linux) drivers that would work with Apple and Windows clients in a NAS configuration?



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Caspian Brand
Re: cross-platform SAN/NAS friendly to iMacs, laptops?
on Nov 19, 2010 at 4:22:03 pm

Many NAS solutions use XFS formatted volumes, so the SMB/CIFS protocol is effectively the client to access that volume over "NAS" methods. Paragon has a block level file system driver for Mac ,ExtFS for Mac, but this would require a SAN approach to networking, and I'm not currently aware of anyone supporting this driver in that approach.

To what level is your cross platform workflow intent, and what editors are you using?

We have many customers including Win/Mac Avid houses sharing media over iSCSI with our EVO and SANmp products. I have seen a lot of customers mixing SAN and NAS topologies in order to create cross-platform workflows, which work very well.

Regards,
-Caspian

Product Specialist
Studio Network Solutions


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Eric Jurgenson
Re: cross-platform SAN/NAS friendly to iMacs, laptops?
on Nov 19, 2010 at 5:44:19 pm

Adobe CS5 on the Win client; FCS on the Mac client.

The Evo looks great, but I'm trying to utilize my existing Enhance-Tech SAS array (as an expander), which would plug into their NAS8000 iSCSI array. I'm thinking I could save some money, even if I have to buy SAN software.



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Caspian Brand
Re: cross-platform SAN/NAS friendly to iMacs, laptops?
on Nov 19, 2010 at 6:25:11 pm

That's a pretty cool looking box. Usually such devices require separate volumes for iSCSI Targets than they do for NAS shares. They also don't come with SAN sharing software, so you'll need to add that or risk corrupting the iSCSI Target volumes.

If you have some spare unused storage to play with on that box, you're welcome to download and try our SANmp software for free.


http://www.studionetworksolutions.com/trysanmp.php

It doesn't require a separate MetaData network, and you can access the NAS shares over the same port as iSCSI, getting the nice mix of File and Volume level sharing, store your media on the SAN volumes and keep project files, graphics, web encodes, proxies, etc. on the NAS. Cross platform SAN access to the volumes can be augmented by the use of Paragon's HFS+ driver for Windows.

-Caspian

Product Specialist
Studio Network Solutions


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Eric Jurgenson
Re: cross-platform SAN/NAS friendly to iMacs, laptops?
on Nov 19, 2010 at 8:01:23 pm

I'm definately going to check it out. Eliminating the need for a seperate metadata network was the subject of my original post, so this could be the answer I'm looking for. Thanks.



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Bob Zelin
Re: cross-platform SAN/NAS friendly to iMacs, laptops?
on Nov 19, 2010 at 8:16:16 pm

Hi Eric -
where is your company located Eric ?


The simple answer is to run Thursby DAVE on your MAC's, which will allow you to connect to PC's. You do not need a Metadata network.

Bob Zelin



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Eric Jurgenson
Re: cross-platform SAN/NAS friendly to iMacs, laptops?
on Nov 19, 2010 at 8:47:49 pm

Thanks, Bob. Don't know how you found me (never did fill out my Cow profile), but I appreciate the call and the advice. I might still investigate the SANmp route, because that might allow me to forgo the MacPro server, and save some money. As Caspian mentioned, SANmp also does not require a seperate metadata network. But of course I must weigh the cost of client SAN software vs. server hardware.



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Eric Jurgenson
Re: cross-platform SAN/NAS friendly to iMacs, laptops?
on Nov 19, 2010 at 10:03:53 pm

If I did go the NAS route, and forgo iSCSI (not compatable with DAVE apparently) for TCP/IP, wouldn't I be better off with a Windows server than a Mac Pro server, since the network is using SMB protocol, and the Windows box would be cheaper?



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Bob Zelin
Re: cross-platform SAN/NAS friendly to iMacs, laptops?
on Nov 20, 2010 at 6:11:22 pm

Mac Pro as the server. Do not use a PC as the server !

Bob Zelin



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Chris Blair
Re: cross-platform SAN/NAS friendly to iMacs, laptops?
on Nov 22, 2010 at 3:10:54 am

Apace's systems all work cross platform. They're file-system and protocol agnostic. They don't care what kind of OS you're using.

They have many clients using them with both Windows and Mac editing systems in the same editing environment.

And I don't work for Apace, we just happen to own one of their vStor systems and it does everything they say it does.

Chris Blair
Magnetic Image, Inc.
Evansville, IN
http://www.videomi.com
Read our blog http://www.videomi.com/blog


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Steve Modica
Re: cross-platform SAN/NAS friendly to iMacs, laptops?
on Dec 30, 2010 at 4:28:31 pm

Apple's SMB is a lot better in 10.6.5 and you can always load Mac ports and download the opensource samba4 as a backup. There's Thursby's Dave as well.

Steve Modica
CTO, Small Tree Communications


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