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Robin Probyn
2700 widely accepted
on Aug 18, 2010 at 4:26:43 pm

Hi there

Amazingly the 400A looks to be ok for the trade in.. Iam just now a bit worried about how widely the 2700 is accepted for 1080 work.. I have an HDX900 but am almost always asked to shoot 1080.. without any complaints..
Is the 2700 ok for 1080 for Natgeo/ Discovery etc.. I know the whole thing of their camera lists is pretty stupid unless its a comparison between HDV and say AVC 100,but I,d frankly rather have the over crank of the 2700 than the more resolution of the 3700 that no one will see the difference .. plus its cheaper :)

Any comments

Thanks



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Jeff Regan
Re: 2700 widely accepted
on Aug 18, 2010 at 10:47:50 pm

NatGeo is a Fox network, which are 720/60P in the US, so I can't imagine why a 720P native camera would be a problem. I have delivery specs for all Fox networks as of a year ago or so, but I don't have acquisition specs.

Jeff Regan
Shooting Star Video
http://www.ssv.com


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john chater
Re: 2700 widely accepted
on Aug 20, 2010 at 2:31:15 am

Hi Robyn, Jeff
Its true Nat Geo will not accept the use of a 2700 on their shows. We had to drop plans to use a 2700 on a show and change back to using a tape Varicam. We needed 60P.
On paper it seems very strange. However it may be an attempt to draw a line in the sand that 720P will not be accepted from new cameras, but they will let the older tape 720P cameras grandfather themselves out.

Best
John Chater



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Jeff Regan
Re: 2700 widely accepted
on Aug 20, 2010 at 4:07:52 am

You could be right John. Pretty bizarre considering the network is 720P. The 2700 is a great wildlife camera and it certainly outperforms a tape Varicam. With all Fox networks, ABC and ESPN being 720P networks, one would think the best ever native 720P camera would be a natural fit.

Jeff Regan
Shooting Star Video
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john sharaf
Re: 2700 widely accepted
on Aug 20, 2010 at 4:13:30 am

The fact is that the picture from a 1080 camera that transcodes to 720, such as the PDW700/800 makes a better picture in 720 than a 720 native camera. I can attest to this from experience using them side by side. Not a 2700 but a Varicam F & H vs. PDW700/800, which had to me dumbed down with detail to match. this is also often done with OB cameras that are native 1080 when hired by the 720 networks.

JS



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Jeff Regan
Re: 2700 widely accepted
on Aug 20, 2010 at 4:35:26 am

John S,

That's interesting, and certainly possible regarding resolving power at acquisition of a 1080 full raster camera vs. 720 camera, but it would be good to compare 2700. The tape Varicams had 10 and 12 bit processing, the 2700 has 14 bit, and one would have to ask were you comparing E to E or via playback? Obviously the DVCPRO HD codec is 3/4 subsampled, so 720P would only be 960 vs. 1280 horizontally in E to E or via AVC-Intra 100.

Jeff Regan
Shooting Star Video
http://www.ssv.com


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Robin Probyn
Re: 2700 widely accepted
on Aug 20, 2010 at 6:29:24 am

Thanks for the feed back.. Ive pretty much decided that its "safer" to go for the 3700.. shame about the over crank.. but Iam not doing that every second shot.. and could throw on my nanoflash.. better the directors stills camera!.

Love the idea of the no moving parts camera.. and have a feeling 1080p will become the next standard spec for Natgeo/Dis/BBC etc.
very odd to allow tape Varicam but not 2700.. not sure that the powers to be at Natgeo are that concerned about freelancers with tape camera,s ???? :)

Have to get to grips with the down loading thing.. heard there is some new box coming out in Oct that makes life easier..



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john sharaf
Re: 2700 widely accepted
on Aug 20, 2010 at 1:52:38 pm

Yeah, comparison of camera output while painting on set. In that case where we mixed PDW700/800 (in 720 mode) and old Varicam we recorded camera output full raster to PDW-HD1500 deck.

JS



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