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Chris Bell
Varicam owners: How many P2 cards do you own?
on Jan 4, 2010 at 3:47:28 am

Taking the plunge and getting a P2 Varicam. How many P2 cards do you guys own? I am thinking four 64 and a 32. I am curious to hear feedback on what works well. Also, what card reader do you use? I'm running snow leopard on my Mac Book Pro, so options are limited.

Christopher Bell
Cinematography
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Noah Kadner
Re: Varicam owners: How many P2 cards do you own?
on Jan 4, 2010 at 5:21:35 am

That's more than most folks could shoot in a day...

Noah

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Emre Tufekci S.O.A.
Re: Varicam owners: How many P2 cards do you own?
on Jan 4, 2010 at 2:24:59 pm

We currently have 8X16 GB P2 cards bought back when. We are upgrading them to all (E series) 64GB cards. With your selection of 4X64 + 1X32 you should be set for a very very long time.

I prefer to have more than I need. We have a few options we use to offload.

1- We have an old p2 store we use as a card reader only.
2- We almost always have a laptop with us and use the panasonic p2 card reader. Unfortunately that's an expensive set up.
3-We haven't used these but sounds interesting:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=Nexto+DI+p2&N=0&InitialSearch=yes

PS: I have not had to offload in the field for a very long time.
PSS: We are getting the E series because of the speed in offloading as the prices are now very close to the A series.



Emre Tufekci
http://www.productionpit.com



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Chris Bell
Re: Varicam owners: How many P2 cards do you own?
on Jan 4, 2010 at 5:21:11 pm

What do you charge for the P2 cards, or do you include them in the rental of the camera?

Christopher Bell
Cinematography
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Emre Tufekci S.O.A.
Re: Varicam owners: How many P2 cards do you own?
on Jan 4, 2010 at 8:30:46 pm

We generally provide "bid" prices as we are a production house and provide turnkey videos. But on individual cards we generally include 3X64GB cards in the camera package and add additional cards at $75 a piece.

Emre Tufekci
http://www.productionpit.com



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Jeff Regan
Re: Varicam owners: How many P2 cards do you own?
on Jan 5, 2010 at 2:45:40 am

I send our HPX2700 out on rental with 5)32Gb E series P2 cards. Transferring on location is very common, we offer a MacBook Pro with ShotPut Pro, but the camera comes with a PCD20 reader and the cards at no extra charge. When I shoot, I like to pull a card to start data transfer as soon as it has been filled, if possible.

Given that, I prefer 32Gb cards vs. 64Gb because of transfer time. I was told that news stations asked Panasonic to put 8Gb cards back into production because that recording and transfer time was ideal.



Jeff Regan
Shooting Star Video
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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Varicam owners: How many P2 cards do you own?
on Jan 5, 2010 at 3:52:44 am

That's plenty of cards, get the e series as they are faster, and we have a PCD20. Spend the money and get either the PCD20 or PCD35. The PCD35 is great for the studio, but will burn a PCI slot. If you need it for the laptop, you need a Magma expansion slot and how much more gear do you really need? Especially if you are doing multicam P2 shoots, those 5 slots are going to come in handy.

http://www.magma.com/store/expressbox1.html

It's still cheaper than a deck.

Jeremy


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Bill Mills
Re: Varicam owners: How many P2 cards do you own?
on Jan 5, 2010 at 12:34:23 pm

Chris,
"Taking the plunge and getting a P2 Varicam. How many P2 cards do you guys own? I am thinking four 64 and a 32. I am curious to hear feedback on what works well. Also, what card reader do you use?"

I usually send out 3-32gb and 3-16's with the package but have started offering the P-2 110 Mobile as an incentive to keep the P2 flow easy. Biggest beef with clients is still the times for backup etc. So much depends on the style of the cameraman (film or video)If they turn the camera off, its plenty of cards otherwise...
Are you getting a 2700 or 3700?

Bill Mills http://www.FLHD.tv


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David Cosby
Re: Varicam owners: How many P2 cards do you own?
on Jan 6, 2010 at 4:20:00 am

We have 2 2700s and a 3700 all cameras you will not be disappointed with.
We keep as many cards with a package as we have available, in a variety of sizes. It would be nice to charge more per card but the goal is to get the job done and get home.
Long Doc style shoots it pays to break up the segments whenever possible so that you can download as you go thru the day. There is nothing worse than backing up files at the end of the day when an impatient client is trying to catch an earlier flight. If you keep enough of them with you then you can hand off one drive and then make your back-up later at the shop. we have a HPG10 or 110 P2 gear device as well as a mac laptop on every shoot. That way you have options and are not necessarily dependent on either. A laptop can crash at the worst time, or a client may bring you a mac formatted drive that the P2 gear may not read. All of these are things we have found out the hard way. If you have full control of the work-flow it's not a real issue as long as you have enough storage... but Shoots Happen!

We have recently been fiddling with Shot-Put Pro which allows multiple back-ups on a download and Proxy Mill which makes TC window files as well. so far not as fast as we'd like but we find ourselves reminding clients that "Tapeless" doesn't mean "Timeless" or "Costless".

P2 has been a wild ride.. but we'd never go back and the images have been awesome.


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