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Brian Wiebe
Squeeze Mode Issue
on Oct 7, 2008 at 3:06:39 pm

My place of employment utilizes a DVX-100A. We are currently beginning to move from shooting 4:3 to 16:9. My initial assumption was that shooting squeeze mode was the way to go--just throw a reformat effect on it in Avid (if necessary).

Squeeze mode seems to have some flaws--when shooting straight edges (for example text on a poster) the edges appear to have a shadow. It appears as though there is a "ripple" on the subject of the shot when panning or tilting or the subject moves. Overall, it makes the image look soft--especially when compared to the 4:3 mode.

The camera was recently 'fixed' by panasonic, but I am noticing the same problem.

Is an anamorphic conversion lens necessary to utilize squeeze mode properly? does the avid reformat not work appropriately with the panasonic camera?

If anyone has any insights it would be incredible as this problems has been ongoing for quite some time.

Thank you,

Brian Wiebe


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Noah Kadner
Re: Squeeze Mode Issue
on Oct 8, 2008 at 4:19:22 pm

What is the Avid reformat? There shouldn't be any reformatting necessary- it's your basic 16:9 anamorphic footage you get with Squeeze mode.

Noah

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Brian Wiebe
Re: Squeeze Mode Issue
on Oct 9, 2008 at 1:21:38 pm

We are currently still finishing in a 4x3 letterbox format--that is why I use the avid reformat. Ideally we would like to shoot true 16x9 for when we eventually start finishing to true 16x9.

I also notice the same problems without Avid's involvement--when I watch the footage on a Sony Monitor in 16x9 mode, off a deck, it still has the same issues: ripples, shadows on edges, and an overall soft image.






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Noah Kadner
Re: Squeeze Mode Issue
on Oct 10, 2008 at 9:57:37 pm

Well that's because you're stretching a 4:3 image to fit a 16:9 display. Really no way around that. If you want it to look proper on a 16:9 display you need to shoot 16:9. If you want a 4:3 letterbox image to look correct you must shoot 4:3 letterbox.

Noah

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Brian Wiebe
Re: Squeeze Mode Issue
on Oct 13, 2008 at 4:27:54 pm

That is NOT what I am doing. I am not stretching anything. I am shooting in 16x9 squeeze mode and watching it on a monitor in 16x9 mode.

I want to shoot a true 16x9 image and squeeze it into a 4x3 letterboxed frame--I have no problem doing this with my XL2. Are you saying the DVX 100 can not shoot 16x9 footage capable of being displayed as both true 16x9 and 4x3 letterbox?--because that is hard to believe.




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Noah Kadner
Re: Squeeze Mode Issue
on Oct 13, 2008 at 10:01:48 pm

Well I suspect it's got something to do with your scaling settings in Avid- I'd ask on the Avid forum. It works fine for me but I'm in FCP.

Noah

My FCP Blog. Unlock the secrets of the DVX100, HVX200 and Apple Color and Win a Free Letus Extreme.
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