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Allen Zagel
Considering new Camera - AG-HMC150 / AG-HPX170
on Nov 15, 2008 at 2:31:36 pm

Hi

HA! Reading about the mini-wars between Sony and Panasonic. Oh well goes a lot farther than just using a Panny camera with Vegas. Which now makes me looking at these 2 new cameras.

I do legal work in addition to technical /corporate stuff and guess what? Sony on their new EX's didn't put the Date/Time stamp feature.

So on I go to either the AG-HMC150 or the AG-HPX170 because they do have the DT feature. However I'm concerned some about the low light feature as compared to my Sony VX2000 and DSR-250.

This clip was shot in normal ambient light in Budapest with my VX2000. But surely wish Ihad an HD camera for my new DVD's







Yea, handheld too, sorry. ;-) How is the low light capability of these two cameras?

I do understand if I want to edit in Vegas, I'd need Raylight as a capture. But I also have a MacBook Pro with Final Cut Express. Which I believe will edit both P2 and AVCHD natively? I'll be eventually upgrading my main editing workstation to a Mac Pro with Final Cut Studio.

Also not quite sure if I need all the features of the 170 but I see the 150 doesn't have any FW out? How would I capture to my nNovia digital recorder? The HMC-150 uses SDHC cards. Easier to get into the computer? Is USB realy a good medium for capturing? ;-(

I'm so used to working with FW. Also my DSR-250 when all set up weighs about 19 lbs UGH! My VX2000's getting old. Time to move up to HD and tapeless workflow I think.

Also in a post below Someone mentioned recordin cdirect to a MBP i a studio test? How was that done? Sounds something like the old DV-Rack for PC's

Thanks
Allen

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Noah Kadner
Re: Considering new Camera - AG-HMC150 / AG-HPX170
on Nov 16, 2008 at 8:14:51 am

Final Cut Express will not handle P2, you'd need to move up to Final Cut Pro. If you can afford an HPX170 and Final Cut Pro- get them- they are awesome and great quality. If you don't have that much budget, the HMC150 is an excellent budget alternative.

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Allen Zagel
Re: Considering new Camera - AG-HMC150 / AG-HPX170
on Nov 16, 2008 at 1:03:56 pm

Hi Noah

Thanks for the info. what about low light capabilities with these 2 cameras as compared to my current VX2000/DSR-250?

Allen

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Steve Eisen
Re: Considering new Camera - AG-HMC150 / AG-HPX170
on Nov 17, 2008 at 2:14:24 am

Both are excellent in low light. Better than the VX2000 and DSR-250. If you get the HPX-170, Barry Green's book includes a CD with extra scene files. One of them is a low light scene file. The camera functions just fine in low light without the scene file.

I agree with Noah, if you can afford it, buy the HPX-170.

I own both the HPX-500 and HPX-170.

Steve Eisen
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Allen Zagel
Re: Considering new Camera - AG-HMC150 / AG-HPX170
on Nov 17, 2008 at 3:40:48 am

Hi Steve

[Steve Eisen] "Barry Green's book includes a CD with extra scene files. One of them is a low light scene file."

Sorry being brand new to Panasonic and HD I don't quite understand the 'scene' files.

Thanks for your imput. Funny I just got back from another forum reading a 150 page thread on the HMC150. I supposed that P2 is much easier to edit though than the AVCHD. Also since I do plan to get a MacPro and Studio 2, I assume the license would also let me install it on my MBP for field use so I would have the FCP6 Also the fact that the 170 has FW so I can run my nNovia digital recorder whereas the 150 doesn't.

Low Light better than the 2000? wow that's better than 2 lux?

I also heard about the 150 in a podcast that the video isn't quite a sharp in the 150 but compared to what?

Other than the price of the P2 cards (ugh!) the 170 probably seems the way to go for me. At current prices I cold sell the VX2000 with the accessories and the DSR250, still under warranty and have money left over after buying the 170. Plus now I get t9o shoot 16;9. ;-)

Thanks again for your imput.
Allen


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Steve Eisen
Re: Considering new Camera - AG-HMC150 / AG-HPX170
on Nov 17, 2008 at 4:52:22 am

Allen

There are a lot of resources in the Chicago area to demo the HPX-170.

You should check out chifcpug. Next meeting is this Wednesday at the Planetarium.

Steve Eisen
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Allen Zagel
Re: Considering new Camera - AG-HMC150 / AG-HPX170
on Nov 17, 2008 at 11:50:02 am

Hi Steve

Yes, already checked out the website and talked to my partner. He's a member. Was just asking him about the 'chifcpug'.

I'll try to make it. Just trying to decide if I'm gonna drive from Elgin or take the train. ;-) Where do you park around there?



Thanks
Allen

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Steve Eisen
Re: Considering new Camera - AG-HMC150 / AG-HPX170
on Nov 17, 2008 at 1:31:29 pm

The Planetarium has a parking lot.

Steve Eisen
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Maurice Spees
Re: Considering new Camera - AG-HMC150 / AG-HPX170
on Feb 18, 2009 at 5:21:00 pm

I own a HVX200, what do i get for it, when I exchange it with the HPX170?
or is this the wrong post for that

Silly frontrunners....

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