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Justin Productions
*.FLV Format for Tutorial
on Jan 22, 2007 at 6:26:39 pm

Hey guys!

So, I have a little question here and I hope someone will be able to help me.

Thing is, I want to make some After Effects tutorials for a french website. So, first of all, I downloaded CamStudio (here: http://www.camstudio.org/) and made the tutorial. Everything is nice and clean and I rendered it out in a *.avi format (I had the choice between the *.avi and *.swf format). Maybe I should of rendered it in *.swf?

Now, I'd pretty much like to render my tutorial so it can be seen in a Flash player (just like Aharon and Andrew Kramer's tutorials) on the french website. The question is; what are the steps to render such a tutorial in Flash (and on a website)?

I reinstalled my good old Macromedia Flash MX 2004 I bought a while ago and downloaded the FLV Video Exporter (here http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flash/articles/flv_exporter.html) that works pretty well.

I've read the article on the website, followed the steps, but now I'm stuck; I have on my hard drive a *.flv file (my tutorial) that I can't import in AE and that I don't even know if I can put on a web page. I'm stuck and I have a feeling the solution is quite simple. Am I missing something?

So I need to buy this first?

Thanks for your time!

Justin Productions
Tangerin01@hotmail.com
Adobe After Effects 6.5 Professional


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annietron
Re: *.FLV Format for Tutorial
on Jan 22, 2007 at 7:30:59 pm

Man, have you checked Camtasia Studio? It's all in there bro i guarantee. http://www.techsmith.com/camtasia.asp


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Aharon Rabinowitz
Re: *.FLV Format for Tutorial
on Jan 22, 2007 at 10:31:50 pm

This will work -

When you are ready to render, choose: File > Produce Video As

Then choose flash. you will see that the settings in there allow you to choose swf or flv - you probably want flv. when you export your tutorial it will output a whole mess of stuff inclusing an HTML page which has a player embedded in it. This SWF file, loads and plays your FLV.

If you would rather use your own FLV player you can just move the FLV to a new folder and then use flash to create your player (or use flash's player components) and tell it to play that FLV.

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Justin Productions
Re: *.FLV Format for Tutorial
on Jan 23, 2007 at 12:04:04 am

Thanks a lot guys.

[Aharon Rabinowitz] "When you are ready to render, choose: File > Produce Video As"

May I ask in what program? I'm using AE 6.5. In AE, when I clicked on File > Export > Flash I didn't have the choice between FLV and Flash...arg, I don't get it...

Thank again!

Justin Productions
Tangerin01@hotmail.com
Adobe After Effects 6.5 Professional


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Aharon Rabinowitz
Re: *.FLV Format for Tutorial
on Jan 23, 2007 at 12:17:55 am

Hi Justin -

you said you were making these in Camtasia Studio. So... That's where you will find that command.

Hope it helps.

Aharon

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Justin Productions
Re: *.FLV Format for Tutorial
on Jan 23, 2007 at 1:27:07 am

Thank's for the quick response Aharon!

Oh, I was talking about CamStudio (here: http://www.camstudio.org/)! I never heard of Camtasia! I just downloaded it, read a couple of tutorials and it's simply fantastic. Pretty simple to use too. The interface reminds me of Windows Movie Maker. Quite expensive thought, I don't know if I'm ready to buy it..

I got to admit, that was pretty simple. If I have any other questions I'll repost in this thread.

Thx a bunch you guys.

Justin Productions
Tangerin01@hotmail.com
Adobe After Effects 6.5 Professional


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Justin Productions
Re: *.FLV Format for Tutorial
on Jan 23, 2007 at 1:50:49 am

Okay, now, there are some things I don't understand. I tried my best.

[Aharon Rabinowitz] "This SWF file, loads and plays your FLV." You mean, the HTML file?

If you would rather use your own FLV player you can just move the FLV to a new folder and then use flash to create your player (or use flash's player components) and tell it to play that FLV."

I never touched Flash (except Macromedia Flash 2004) and to be honest, I didn't get a word : "If you would rather use your own FLV player" - I have a FLV player? You mean Flash? Uh?

"[...] you can just move the FLV to a new folder and then use flash to create your player" How can I make flash to create my player? - and will this help me to put the flash player on a web page to share it?

I'm really sorry but this is all pretty new to me (the Flash thing). I will still be Googling and reading all the tutorials I can find and I'll keep you alerted if I find any response...but, I don't think it will be pretty easy. Honestly, I really really appreciate your help but honestly, I often understand with septs (1. Do this... 2. Create this... 3. Render this...) if that can help.

Thanks a bunch!

Justin Productions
Tangerin01@hotmail.com
Adobe After Effects 6.5 Professional







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Aharon Rabinowitz
Re: *.FLV Format for Tutorial
on Jan 23, 2007 at 4:22:22 am

An FLV cannot be played by anything other than a player designed to play it. CamTasia outputs an HTML file containing a Flash SWF wich contans the code for loading the FLV. The SWF has player controls, which controlas playback of the FLV - because the FLV cannot have player controls - just like any video file. Remember quicktime videos are just a vidoe file - the player controls (Stop, play, FF...etc.) are part of the program Quicktime.

Anyway, Camtasia puts that SWF (Which is just the video player with controls)in an html doc. Actually, the html files contans code that says Play this SWF, and The SWF says Play this FLV.

You can either create your own FLV player in Flash, use the FLVplayer that come with flash, or buy one online - lots of people sell them - they are usually easier to use then the ones that come with flash, or they look better.

I don't know if older versions of flash come with the player but i don;t think so. They have other player tools but not as simple as the one that comes with flash 8.




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Justin Productions
Re: *.FLV Format for Tutorial
on Jan 23, 2007 at 4:49:51 am

Wow. After reading tree or four times your response, it's all starting to make sense. Thanks a million.

Now, final question; how am I going to put this on a website? For example, if I bought this, will I receive a code of some sort that will allow me to paste it on this particular website? How am I going to be able to upload my tutorial in this player? Arg, this is so confusing :

I tried a bunch of things with Camtasia and read the Help Files (almost entirely) and didn't get any results.

Once again, thanks for helping me Aharon. I owe you one.
Your last tutorial was very informative, nice work!

Justin Productions
Tangerin01@hotmail.com
Adobe After Effects 6.5 Professional


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Justin Productions
Re: *.FLV Format for Tutorial
on Jan 23, 2007 at 4:57:42 am

Wait, if I go there: http://www.afcomponents.com/blog/?p=14
And read: Just copy FLV PLAYER SWF to your server and use flvPath and flvTitle variables to pass data to the player. from the FLV Player Embed Code...

Will this be my answer?

Justin Productions
Tangerin01@hotmail.com
Adobe After Effects 6.5 Professional


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Aharon Rabinowitz
Re: *.FLV Format for Tutorial
on Jan 23, 2007 at 1:56:42 pm

For that component (Which Andrew and I both use) the company's tutorial for making it work is here:

http://www.afcomponents.com/forum/index.php?action=vthread&forum=2&topic=22...

This tutorial only works for that speciffic component that you have to buy. However, if you have flash 8, you will find the "FLV Playback" component (THe one that comes WITH flash) in the same place they indicate in the tutorial for the AF Component, and it works pretty similarly.

In the flash 8 help files, do a search for FLV Playback, and you will find a lot of info on it, including how to use skins and give it different controls.

I am not sure if the AF components player requires Flash 8 or if it just works with it. If you don't have flash 8 you need to verify it.

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Justin Productions
Re: *.FLV Format for Tutorial
on Jan 23, 2007 at 5:33:15 pm

Ah! So, let me get this straight. Since I don't want to create FLV Player;

1. I buy this little component.
2. I follow tutorial (Or not? Since I don't own Flash 8).

And then...so, if I understand, does this really mean I have to own my website and put the file path in my website folder on my hard drive? What if the website doesn't belong to me? I'm just trying to understand the steps to upload a tutorial, in this particular Flash player, on a website that isn't mine. Just like you and Andrew do on COW.

And after reading twice this tutorial, it looked like I was obligated to direct the path of the video to a file I had on my hard drive (and not uploaded on a server on the net).

Thanks for your help and patience.

Justin Productions
Tangerin01@hotmail.com
Adobe After Effects 6.5 Professional


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thumbslinger
Re: *.FLV Format for Tutorial
on Jan 23, 2007 at 11:05:14 pm

What normally happens on tutorial sites is that the site asks you for a link to the tutorial. The actual html files, images, flash, video, sound etc., all reside in a folder on your own webserver space.

I haven't checked here at the cow, but with so many vid's, a server space would get filled quickly with so many tutorials.

That's why some prefer pdf's or jpegs.

A typical flash presentation has at least two parts: the html file and the .swf file. If you use Flash video then you'll have at least three parts: the html, the swf and the .flv file. This is all in addition to any images you might create for the html page.



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Justin Productions
Re: *.FLV Format for Tutorial
on Jan 24, 2007 at 9:08:40 pm

A huge thanks for the help.

Was pretty easy after all.

Justin Productions
Tangerin01@hotmail.com
Adobe After Effects 6.5 Professional


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