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Mohamed Mira
Animation Codec - Motion 4 vs Motion 5
on May 2, 2016 at 3:56:23 pm

Hi

I'm doing a calligraphy animation ( hand write animated text), so it is simple white or black over transparency background. so best Codec to use is Animation.

In Motion 4 a file export video file size is around 1-2 MB, animation codec + Alpha

In Motion 5 same file produce a 20-30 MB movie in size


Any EXPLANATION, coz i'm going crazy. . .

I'm looking for the minimum video size (with Alpha channel)


thnx in advance


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Bret Williams
Re: Animation Codec - Motion 4 vs Motion 5
on May 2, 2016 at 4:55:15 pm

I think you are mistaken about an animation codec file being 1-2 megabytes unless it was a couple frames long.

Animation codec is pretty old. Give ProRes 4444 a try. That's the standard.


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Mohamed Mira
Re: Animation Codec - Motion 4 vs Motion 5
on May 2, 2016 at 7:33:15 pm

thnx Bret,







check the data rate in the photos. the lower from motion 4 and the higher from motion 5

simple export or share steps

you can notice the duration too 5 seconds and 8 seconds

what say you ! ! ! ! ! ! !


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Bret Williams
Re: Animation Codec - Motion 4 vs Motion 5
on May 2, 2016 at 8:01:07 pm

I don't know. If they're not the same animation, it is variable bit rate, so it's deeming the other needs ore. Perhaps you have one with a moving camera and the other is locked off. Why worry about 20megs either way?

But use the better ProRes 4444 if you can. Should be better results in smaller file.


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Mohamed Mira
Re: Animation Codec - Motion 4 vs Motion 5
on May 3, 2016 at 10:28:48 am

thnx Bret,

ProRes 4444 gives same file size.
I'm uploading these animation for selling on line.
and why the small size, coz i'm living in a place with the fastest internet in the universe ;)

thnx for yr consideration.

i'll go back to motion 4
Oldy is Goldy :D


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Bret Williams
Re: Animation Codec - Motion 4 vs Motion 5
on May 3, 2016 at 12:11:22 pm

It would be an interesting test to see if you put the animation file from Motion5 into Motion 4 and output to see if it decreases the file size so dramatically.


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Robin S. Kurz
Re: Animation Codec - Motion 4 vs Motion 5
on May 3, 2016 at 8:31:16 am

[Mohamed Mira] "it is simple white or black over transparency background. so best Codec to use is Animation"

Question is: where are you going from there? Because if you're going to FCP, then there is no need to render at all.

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Mohamed Mira
Re: Animation Codec - Motion 4 vs Motion 5
on May 3, 2016 at 10:32:33 am

this for selling online and be used by any editing software.

I'm not looking for a solution as much as why is that ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !


I had no problem to work with motion 4



thnx


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John Rofrano
Re: Animation Codec - Motion 4 vs Motion 5
on May 3, 2016 at 1:27:00 pm

[Mohamed Mira] "I'm not looking for a solution as much as why is that ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !"
The only parameter that affects file size is bitrate. Obviously Motion 5 is using a much higher bitrate than Motion 4 did which is why the file is so much bigger (i.e., 2/Mbps in Motion 4 compared to 24/Mbps in Motion 5). If you want to control the file size, use Send to Compressor... so that you can control the bitrate yourself.

~jr

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Mohamed Mira
Re: Animation Codec - Motion 4 vs Motion 5
on May 5, 2016 at 11:00:53 am

John,

thnx for yr consideration .

You can't export Animation in Motion 5 without compressor as in motion 4.

Still you can't change the bitrate, even if u changed the quality, you still get the same file size. and u get another issue random frame rate as for ex. 20.3 or 19.7. hehehh ehehe hehehhe hehheh


another weird issue, (motion 5 + compressor) it you forced the frame rate to 25 or 24 (what ever). the file size go to gigabytes hehhehhehh hehehehehe.

still I'm not looking for a solution, motion 4 is great for my work.

thnx


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