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Nigel Thompson
Smoke and Kona LHi
on Jul 11, 2011 at 7:37:42 pm

Hello Autodesk guys:

will smoke ever or will there ever be a version of smoke that supports the Kona LHi ?

i don't mind shelling out the 15k for the software but don't think all my rooms need a Kona 3G.

Just exploring my options after the FCP debacle... Planned to get a smoke anyway but this is a kind of push for it.

Nigel

High End, Production & Post Production
in the Caribbean
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Brian Mulligan
Re: Smoke and Kona LHi
on Jul 11, 2011 at 11:58:17 pm

Without the KONA, I believe you can do everything but tape i/o. If you are all file based then I think you would be OK. Not sure how sync might work. Sync is always good.

Brian Mulligan
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Nigel Thompson
Re: Smoke and Kona LHi
on Jul 12, 2011 at 12:31:13 am

Not just syncing .... i NEED to see my stuff on a monitor
for grading etc etc.....

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in the Caribbean
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Grant Kay
Re: Smoke and Kona LHi
on Jul 12, 2011 at 8:37:23 am

Hi Nigel,

Without the Kona 3G card you could use the second DVI port on the graphics card to display a broadcast output. CArds like the Nvidia Quadro FX4800 have two DVIs and Smoke uses one for the interface and you can set it to use the second as a broadcast output.

Throw in a DVI to HDMI convertor and you can monitor the image on a screen of your choice.

Hope this helps.

Regards
Grant

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Nigel Thompson
Re: Smoke and Kona LHi
on Jul 12, 2011 at 11:49:45 am

Is That so ?
How come ive never heard of this before ?
And this output is a straight 8 or 10 bit video image like what you would get out of a kona and is usable for grading ?

if so thats fantastic, because we are totally tapeless and we have the LHi strictly for monitoring and editing acceleration we very rearly go to tape. we are all digital delivery. I made a decision years ago not to buy any tape decks and if we need dubs send it to a transfer house and pass that cost on to the client. Now even that is dwindling cuz TV stations take digital delivery of ADS now.

BUT will that hamper my push into 2K that seems to be coming on strong. Lots of short films popping up that wanna finish in 2k

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jake blackstone
Re: Smoke and Kona LHi
on Jul 12, 2011 at 9:31:53 pm

Yes, it is so. I had been using DVI output for a while and it works great. The thing to remember, is standard DVI is only 8 bit. For higher color resolution you could use DVI to HDMI converter, which can use dual DVI. In that case, if your converter supports HDMI v.13a or higher, it will be able to display 10 bit video. Yes, the nVidia card is also capable displaying 2k images, but you then hampered by lack of inexpensive 2k displays.
At the end of the day, if you need 10 bit video, DVI to HDMI converter is not really that cheap and you may still decide, that Kona 3G is a better way to go.


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Nigel Thompson
Re: Smoke and Kona LHi
on Jul 12, 2011 at 11:21:30 pm

Hey Thanks for the advice Jake.
The most expensive converter ive found thus far costs around 400 USD
a kona costs 2k

So if i have a quadro 4800 with a converter .... hmm nice to know
so there are lots of options

thanks guys !!!!

High End, Production & Post Production
in the Caribbean
http://www.bistt.com


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Bjarki Gudjonsson
Re: Smoke and Kona LHi
on Oct 28, 2011 at 10:40:54 pm

Guys.

This is not the way to go. Yes, you can output the video through DVI via an HDMI cable, but that's an RGB signal, not a Rec.709 which you can color grade to spec.

I'm in exactly the same position here, trying to justify moving up to Smoke, but the added cost of upgrading my LHi to a Kona 3, which is only used for monitoring is another couple of grand.

If you really can show me a way to get the DVI signal to playback a real bona-fide airtight signal, please tell me I'm wrong.

B.


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