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Rory Hinds
Red Rocket
on Jun 23, 2010 at 4:50:15 am

anyone using Smoke 2011SP2 on Mac with a RED Rocket?

I can't seem to get SMOKE to use the RR.
RedCineX sees it and it works fine but in SMOKE it doesn't use it so renders very slow using the CPU.
WireTap can see the Rocket but again it doesn't use it when I import footage.

Please some help

Rory Hinds
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Joel Osis
Re: Red Rocket
on Jun 23, 2010 at 4:17:41 pm

Hey Rory,

The only thing I can think is trying both ways of importing the red media, ie, through wiretap central ( the old painful way),
and then the gateway drag and drop way(new way),

Sadly there isn't much documentation on the red rocket in the smoke user manual,

Also I know 2011 SP3 just got released yesterday, so maybe its fixed with this service pack,

Joel


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Alexander Higgins
Re: Red Rocket
on Jun 23, 2010 at 7:19:31 pm

from the 2011 SP3 Release Notes.


You cannot debayer R3D media using WiretapCentral on a system equipped with a RED ROCKET card. Use a copy of WiretapCentral installed on another system, or use your Visual Effects and Finishing application.

I have been wondering about REDROCKET, and that statement doesn't make any sence. Does that mean if the host computer with REDROCKET has Wiretap you can debayer with the REDROCKET?

So its saying you can over the network, but not locally?



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Grant Kay
Re: Red Rocket
on Jun 23, 2010 at 8:20:20 pm

Hi,

Maybe I can help here....

Firstly I need to explain wiretap and wiretap-central.

Wiretap is background service that can run on both Mac and Linux boxes.

Wiretap-Central is a flash based application that you can access the wiretap service through a web-browser on a windows/osX/Linux workstation on the same network as the Smoke or Flame. So the wiretap central interface allows you to browse the databases, timelines and libraries (ala Wiretap server).

With 2011, there are two ways you can debayer red media.

Method 1: By accessing the databases through the wiretap central (on any networked machine), you can kick off a background transcode of red media to DPX. This is purely CPU driven and is a background operation. This does not use the Red Rocket.

Method 2: With the introduction of 2011, Smoke/Flame gained the ability to import the Red Media files natively into the application as a foreground process. The wiretap service runs in the background with the smoke/flame application and wiretap decodes the R3D files on the fly in the application ( so no transcoding and that's how people prefer to work.)

So looking at the release notes, perhaps they should say:

"You cannot debayer R3D media in the background via the WiretapCentral browser on a system equipped with a RED ROCKET card. Use the Wiretap server installed on another system (linux setup), or use your Visual Effects and Finishing application for foreground debayer of R3D with the RED ROCKET CARD (Smoke on mac setup)."


I am speculating slightly as I have taken this statement out of context.

The other mildly complex factor is that the Red Rocket works on a Mac and not Linux. Therefore if you are running a Flame or Smoke Linux box and you want to take advantage of the Rocket, you need to run a Mac with the Rocket and the wiretap service installed. The Linux application will access the Mac across the network and the performance will be network based for starters.

Smoke on the Mac is much simpler. You simply install the Rocket on the same workstation as the Smoke. The wiretap server will be running as a background service as part of the smoke install. As you have discovered it wont just work straight away because the default behaviour of the wiretap services is to use CPU cores to do the debayering on the fly. It was done this way because not everyone will use the Rocket to debayer and it is the default setting.

To use the RED ROCKET, I was told, you need to edit a wiretap config file so that the wiretap server uses 0 cpu cores to debayer and it should switch to using the Rocket. You cannot use a combination of both. Please look into the documentation or contact Autodesk support.

When the Rocket is enabled you go into smoke and look at the network gateways. The Gateway will have RED ROCKET message next to it to indicate the gateway will attempt to use the Rocket for debayering.

I hope that this information helps.

Regards
Grant

Check out my Flame and Smoke blog at http://area.autodesk.com/blogs/discreetuk


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Rory Hinds
Re: Red Rocket
on Jun 23, 2010 at 8:30:50 pm

"..should switch to using the Rocket. You cannot use a combination of both. Please look into the documentation or contact Autodesk support. "

Hi Grant

I have set the config file to 0 and I still don't get use of the Rocket card on my Smoke Mac 2011.
Seems i'm chasing my tail here with no one knowing if it really does work as advertised.

Please help
Cheers
Rory


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Grant Kay
Re: Red Rocket
on Jun 23, 2010 at 8:37:09 pm

Hi Rory,

I have seen it work on other systems but I do not have my own Rocket so I could not really make suggestions other than what I was told.

Hang in there with Autodesk support, they should be able to come up with remedy.

Best of luck!

Regards
Grant

Check out my Flame and Smoke blog at http://area.autodesk.com/blogs/discreetuk


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Simon Blackledge
Re: Red Rocket
on Jul 18, 2010 at 10:07:29 am

Did this eventually work Rory ?

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Rory Hinds
Re: Red Rocket
on Jul 18, 2010 at 4:45:39 pm

no I never got it to work

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Paul Carlin
Re: Red Rocket
on Sep 2, 2010 at 5:22:26 am

Be sure you are in 32-bit OS mode, not 64-bit as the Red Rocket drivers are 32-bit.

Smoke is 64-bit, but runs inside the 32-bit OS mode (Smoke 2011).

Don't know if this is the solution, but simply a suggestion to try.

- Paul


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Ben Rojas
Re: Red Rocket
on Jun 20, 2011 at 4:48:58 pm

Hi Rory.

Did you ever get it to work? I'm getting my RR in this week and am hoping Smoke on Mac 2012 & RR just work w/no hassles.

Regards,
Ben

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