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Adriano Moraes
DDP + Playback smoothness coming from professional recording
on Mar 20, 2012 at 5:15:48 pm

Hello there everyone!

I just read a post two threads down about quality and enconding differences in professional DVD factories.

I have a similar problem but not due to quality issues.

I´m used to authoring DVDs for small corporate clients and they never complaing about the transitions between intros and menus. (that little snap on the video)

I´m used to record those DVDs from .ISO files I create in encore on to regular consumer DVD-R midia.

Well I just finished my first mass market DVD and was asked to deliver a DDP image. I also send them a regular DVD for checking.

Here´s the thing: the guy is complaning about the small crack that usualy happens when the DVD changes from the intro video to the motion menu. (by watching the regular preview DVD I sent)

I´m wondering if it is happening because of the quality of the consumer DVD + small office equipament recording I used and if it will not happen once the real professional DVD is recorded from the DDP image.

Can I tell them it won´t happen on the final DVD or I´d be dead wrong?


If so: is that a way (trick) to make this transition less noticeble?


Thanks in advance!


Cheers.

ninguem
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eric pautsch
Re: DDP + Playback smoothness coming from professional recording
on Mar 22, 2012 at 1:14:22 am

Is there audio at that point. what do you mean by "crack"? There will be no difference



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Adriano Moraes
Re: DDP + Playback smoothness coming from professional recording
on Mar 22, 2012 at 5:08:13 pm

Hello Eric. Thanks for takin' the time to answer my question.

Sorry if I didn´t make it quite clear. What I meant by crack was the point where the DVD changes from one clip to the other. Like when you have a motion intro and its end action is the motion menu. It always gives us a little freeze break before continuing. I know there´s not much you can do about it since it´s actualy a fisical thing on the laser reader changing from one clip to the other. What I wanted to know was how much the quality of the media influences on how harsh/perceptable the break is and if the DDP master has some advantages over the ISO I usualy record.

I do have sound but always position the cut right on a silent or changing spot so it goes almost without showing.

Well in the end I simply put my money on the table and said: "Go for it. The DVD is good." Let´s see.

I also found out that the guy was watching the DVD preview I sent him on a blu-ray player that also plays DVDs and was having brutal problems that I really think were happening because of it. (he described me encoding artifacts, problems with clips reloading, a thumbnail on the corner of the screen on every chapter change...and I didn´t have any of that on any of my computers nor on my regular DVD player)

Well thanks again for answering and trying to help.


Cheers!

ninguem
////http://cargocollective.com/ninguem/


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eric pautsch
Re: DDP + Playback smoothness coming from professional recording
on Mar 23, 2012 at 3:26:22 am

Player seek times vary from player to player. I only wish players would be the same across, the board. It would my make peoples lives, who produced DVDs, much easier :)

Going to replication wont fix this issue. Is it this way on all players youve tested?



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Adriano Moraes
Re: DDP + Playback smoothness coming from professional recording
on Mar 23, 2012 at 5:04:45 am

Indeed. If only all players were the same.

Everywhere I tested the transitions were almost imperceptible.

Just a tiny pause. I´ve seen those in market DVDs all around.

The main thing is the client played the DVD on a gimmicky Blu-Ray player. That alone gave him another perspective on the idea. Like playing DVDs on VLC media player if you´ve ever done that.

Thanks for the input on the very fact that replication won´t change a thing. But I trust the fact that what I did couldn´t have been done any better.(at least on a sw like encore---charging encore prices)

I´m still waiting to hear from the guy. Let´s see.


Let´s all hope for a better/more consistent media on our ever changing work world.


Thanks again mate!


Cheers!

ninguem
////http://cargocollective.com/ninguem/


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eric pautsch
Re: DDP + Playback smoothness coming from professional recording
on Mar 23, 2012 at 7:47:26 am

Well there are ways to bypass having the pause between an intro and the menu. I always create the intro and the menu as one piece then adjust the point where i want my 8bit overlay to appear. There's no break in audio and its all nicely contained in one portion on the disc. Unfortunately i dont think Encore allows you to adjust the appearance of your button....could be but i dont use Encore



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Volodymyr Kashuba
Re: DDP + Playback smoothness coming from professional recording
on Mar 31, 2012 at 2:09:33 am

Hi Adriano,
Just read this artical, maybe it is whot you tolking about

http://www.precomposed.com/blog/2011/01/encore-blu-ray-loop-point-fix/#more...,

http://www.precomposed.com/blog/2011/02/

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