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Volodymyr Kashuba
Auto setting for transcoding in Encore CS5
on Oct 26, 2011 at 11:19:31 pm

I used before Enore 1.5. Creatig DVD 1hour 45min with menu. All assets transcoding setting on AUTO. Result 3-5 Mb left.

Now in Encore CS5 I do everiting this same, all assets is set to transcode on AUTO. Final size of .ISO files 3.92GB. It's lest 20-30 projects like that. WHY??? Why it's not transcoding on AUTO setting to the full 4,7GB.

I know about bit rate calkulator and all manual setting. My question is WHY in Encore CS5 on auto setting it's transcoding exectly 3.92GB ISO file or DVD disc. Why so mach spase left, and what i can do to fix it in auto mode to transcode to full 4.7GB???

I have this same issue on two diferent systems. System are prety new with i7, win 7, 16 and 24 gig of RAM.

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit,
Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (overclocked to 4.5GHz),
CORSAIR CWCH50-1 High Performance CPU Cooler, ASUS P8P67 PRO,
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB,
EVGA GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 2GB ,
Matrox MXO2 with MAX,
COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Black ATX Full Tower Computer Case,
Adobe CS 5 Production Premium


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Daniel Ludwig
Re: Auto setting for transcoding in Encore CS5
on Oct 29, 2011 at 7:53:28 pm

Volodymyr,
this is no issue, it´s the way adobe decided encore should work.

but to change the transcoding-setting of your project is the first thing you should do, when you create a new project.

therefor you need to set the default-transcoding-settings.

cheers

danny


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Volodymyr Kashuba
Re: Auto setting for transcoding in Encore CS5
on Nov 5, 2011 at 6:23:43 pm

Hi Daniel,
It is not a answer on my question.

therefor you need to set the default-transcoding-settings - I do this on every new project.
The max transcoding rate set to 9.4 Mbps,

Video Transcoding: Codec: MPEG-2

Dimension: 720x480

Frame Rate: 29.97

Fields: Lower Field First

Audio Transcoding: Dlby Digital.

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit,
Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (overclocked to 4.5GHz),
CORSAIR CWCH50-1 High Performance CPU Cooler, ASUS P8P67 PRO,
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB,
EVGA GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 2GB ,
Matrox MXO2 with MAX,
COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Black ATX Full Tower Computer Case,
Adobe CS 5 Production Premium


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Daniel Ludwig
Re: Auto setting for transcoding in Encore CS5
on Nov 5, 2011 at 7:16:43 pm

hi again,
9.4Mbit/s is much to high unless you are going to create a replicated disc.

for recordable media you should not use more than 8.5Mbit/s (incl. audio).

I do not know why encore works as it works - I´m no programmer, but I think the adobe-guys are smart enough to tell you.

unless you haven´t got enough content, your disk wont be filled completely.

cheers

danny


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Volodymyr Kashuba
Re: Auto setting for transcoding in Encore CS5
on Nov 7, 2011 at 5:24:19 am

Hi Daniel,

[Daniel Ludwig] "9.4Mbit/s is much to high unless you are going to create a replicated disc."

Maybe, but I allways did this way, and my 10year old DVD player reads thouse discs whith out any problem, and in 10 year any complains from the costomers. So maximum 9.4Mbit/s has nothing to do to my issue - why Encore CS5 creats .ISO file, DVD disc or DVD folder allways 3.92GB even with automatic setting for all assets.


[Daniel Ludwig] "unless you haven´t got enough content, your disk wont be filled completely"

In my first line in this post I say: "Creatig DVD 1 hour 45min with menu". Is it not enough content to trsnscode to 4.7(4.37)GB?

[Daniel Ludwig] " I´m no programmer, but I think the adobe-guys are smart enough to tell you."

I am not programmer eather, that is why I askin for help on this forum. And Adobe-guys are not answering on my question. I posted this same quetion on Adobe forum - no anwers.

Thsnk you so mach for traing to help me.

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit,
Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (overclocked to 4.5GHz),
CORSAIR CWCH50-1 High Performance CPU Cooler, ASUS P8P67 PRO,
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB,
EVGA GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 2GB ,
Matrox MXO2 with MAX,
COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Black ATX Full Tower Computer Case,
Adobe CS 5 Production Premium


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Daniel Ludwig
Re: Auto setting for transcoding in Encore CS5
on Nov 7, 2011 at 6:44:50 am

1. the best way of authoring a DVD or BD is to encode your assets !!prior!! you start authoring. forget about automatically set bitrates and automated transcodings - do it your own!

2. if you have a duration of 105min. that will result to 5,5Mbit/s target-rate (if you are using AC-3 audio@192kbit/s) to not overfill your disc.

encore do not use CBR, it will use a VBR-transcoding, so if you set your transcoding to 9.4Mbit/s I guess it will be using 5.0Mbit/s, so it will not fill the disc completely. 9.4MBit/s is the peak-rate for your transcoding-setting.

3. again - 9.4 Mbit/s is much to high for DVD-R/+R (even if it is peak-rate-value) , if you had luck or not, this could only be used with replicated DVDs.

in your specific case 9.4Mbit/s would result in too much date for your DVD-5.

you´ve asked for reasons - here they are.


cheers

danny


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Dom Vitello
Re: Auto setting for transcoding in Encore CS5
on Dec 13, 2011 at 8:19:49 pm

To Daniel Ludwig,

(I hope the "reply" arrow goes to you)
Dear Thank you, Danny, your responses in this thread have been helpful.
My question: I once heard that the bit rate for DVD should be set high at 7.2 and low at 5.5 (referring to DVD Studio Pro). I am using Encore. In the setting there are the Max and Min and a Target. The DVDs I am doing will be replicated and for the most part will not be more than an hour. Can you suggest a ball park setting.
Thank You
Dom


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Daniel Ludwig
Re: Auto setting for transcoding in Encore CS5
on Dec 15, 2011 at 9:46:23 pm

ciao dom,
if the most DVDs you are authoring do not exceed 60min. don´t think about VBR (and all its values). that´s what could be done with CBR at 7.8Mbit/s and 192kbit/s AC-3-audio.

don´t waste your time on thinking about other options - that makes no sence.

cheers

danny


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