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Jerry Cast
Encore CS3 Burn Problem..
on Jun 12, 2009 at 4:19:35 pm

Hi,

I have a 12 minute DVD that I'm trying to burn in Encore CS3 at the highest transcoder quality setting.

On automatic, I burn successfully after bringing in the 2 gig file, but it trims it down to 814 megs, so I know I'm not getting the best quality.

Any other setting crashes my computer.

I have a high speed Quad core machine with 4 gigs of memory and not much other software on it, no Internet or network connected, and the .avi file is on a huge separate, defragmented drive separate from the boot drive AND the Encore project files are even on thier own separate drive too.

Exporting into Encore from Premier Pro also doesn't work, which I dont' care about too much, but I'm really hoping I can get a better quality DVD.

Any help would be appreciated. I've tried every transcoder setting and auto only works.

Thanks.
Jerry


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Jon Geddes
Re: Encore CS3 Burn Problem..
on Jun 12, 2009 at 5:52:38 pm

First of all, the quality of dvd's can only be so high, as they must meet the requirements of the dvd specifications. If your video exceeds 7.5 mbps, you might have issues with playback on certain players (since the dvd player can only read so much information at a given time).

I would keep the bitrate at 7 mbps, and you could do VBR 2 pass with a max bitrate of 8, minimum of 1.5 and target of 7.

Also, if your source video is HD, you won't want to use the Encore encoder to transcode it, as it has a horrible downscaling algorithm. Instead, you could use a program like Virtual Dub (if you are on a PC) to downscale it, then use encore to transcode the SD video.

Jon Geddes
Motion Graphics Designer
http://www.precomposed.com


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Jerry Cast
Re: Encore CS3 Burn Problem..
on Jun 13, 2009 at 2:49:51 am

Thank, but you missed what I said.

Any other setting, which includes your recommendation, crashes my computer.

That is the problem. It's auto or nothing.

Would that be acceptable to you? To have a 2 gig file "auto'd" down to 800 megs and not to try to go to the High Quality Transcoder?

Jerry
http://www.jerrycastaldo.com


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Jon Geddes
Re: Encore CS3 Burn Problem..
on Jun 13, 2009 at 3:20:06 am

Actually for a 12 minute video, your file should be around 800 mb if its using the highest bitrate possible.

Have you tried transcoding outside of encore? Try just using the adobe media encoder and set everything manually for dvd mpeg2 output.

Jon Geddes
Motion Graphics Designer
http://www.precomposed.com


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Jerry Cast
Re: Encore CS3 Burn Problem..
on Jun 13, 2009 at 2:57:06 pm

Hi,

Ok, thanks, that's good to hear.

So, on automatic, 814 mgs is a high bitrate. As long as I know that, I feel good about.

I would like to troubleshoot though to see why my "non auto" choices crash an otherwise stable system.

Let me ask this question to see if there's a problem here.

Besides my boot drive, I have two 500 gig internal drives, one for audio only (I'm a musician who uses Sonar 8 for midi file and soft synth processing on that drive), and the other drive is for video capture and Adobe project files.

I have one other internal 500 gig drive for Samples (soft synths for music and MP3 libraries). Let's call this Drive SAMPLE DRIVE.

I then have two removable slide in/out Icy Dock trays that allow backups (they are connected direct to the motherboard via sata.)

Since Export to Encore from Premier is freezing my computer, I export a movie to the Video only drive.

What is the best scenario for Encore? Should I keep the Encore Project files on the main Video Drive and transcode that .avi file to that same drive OR should I transcode the the idle SAMPLE DRIVE?

I'm confused about transcoding too. Does the Encore process first Transcode, then just burn that transcoded file to DVD, OR, is there another processing that goes between the transcoded file and the burning to DVD?

Thanks again for your help.
Jerry
http://www.jerrycastaldo.com


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Jerry Cast
Re: Encore CS3 Burn Problem..
on Jun 13, 2009 at 2:59:20 pm

Oh, I'll also take your suggestion and try to encode outside of Encore by using the Media Encoder to dvd mpeg2.

So, I assume the mpeg2 is the same type of file that Encore produces during transcoding.

Got, I"m slowly learning.

Thanks.


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Jon Geddes
Re: Encore CS3 Burn Problem..
on Jun 14, 2009 at 6:21:50 pm

I don't believe an intermediate image file is created when building straight to disc in encore.

Are you using any special codecs for your video or audio? Thats all I can think of that might be causing the unstable transcoding. It could also be some application that installs drivers that is conflicting with encore such as ffmpeg. Programs like that install mpeg drivers that override the default and may not work well with encore.

And yes, Adobe Media Encoder with generate a dvd compliant m2v (mpeg2) file that encore will not have to transcode.

Jon Geddes
Motion Graphics Designer
http://www.precomposed.com


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Jerry Cast
Re: Encore CS3 Burn Problem..
on Jun 14, 2009 at 10:31:40 pm

No Jon, no special codecs.

Thanks, I'll keep poking around.

Jerry
http://www.jerrycastaldo.com


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