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Brodd Nesset
Best structure for large project
on Aug 25, 2005 at 8:27:49 am

Hi all! My first serious DVD project is a large one; I have filmed and edited a dance contest with 115(!) numbers, and have calculated that these will fit on three DVDs. Its a non-commercial arrangement, and some 'idealism' is the reason why I took the assignment without really having the experience with such a large DVD project. I am experienced with filming and editing, though. I use Premiere PRO (v.1) for editing, and have opted to make 115 unique 'Sequences' which are now finished.

The functionality I need from the DVD menus are:
- Two modes: Jump to any specific numer (35-40 on each disc) and 'Play all'.
- When selecting one number and it finishes playing it should jump back to the (sub)menu it came from. Here, the number you just played should be in a 'selected' state, and if possible every number played (random) should have its own color.

My main question is which is the wiser:
1. Create a long Timeline in Premiere with the sequences going to DVD 'A' assembled on it, with a chapter mark for each one. AFAIK I understand from the Encore manual, this method will have difficulty with jumping back to the menu after one number is finished. Am I right, and if not, how is it done in Encore?
1b. One can do either, but should I render this out from Premiere, or rather import the project (Timeline) to Encore, letting it do the transcoding?

2. Render out every Sequence as a MPG2 file from Premiere, and assemble them in an Encore Project instead, probably using a 'Playlist' for the menu setup. This is a huge manual job (115 Sequences / files), with waiting for rendering and high demands on disk space.
2b. BTW would rendering to DV-AVI from Premiere be better? I hear good things about the MPEG2 transcoding within Encore. Even more disk-space for the in-between stage though...

There might be a 'third way' that I more experienced users know.

Anyway, thanks for any qualified input and any thoughts about how to set up my project, with the least amount of work.


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Joe Bowden
Re: Best structure for large project
on Aug 25, 2005 at 6:39:44 pm

There is no way to do what you are trying to accomplish in a single Encore timeline, so if it's imperative that a user be able to play only one sequence and then return to a menu, then you will have to use multiple timelines.

The problem is, you are limited to 99 timelines (each timeline is a VTS, and only 99 VTS can exist on a DVD).

Finally, you are limited in the number of buttons in a single menu (36 is the maximum for DVD-Video), and the number of colors you can use in a menu for button highlights (16).

With this in mind, you may want to reconsider the project to fit within the limitations of Encore (the first issue I mentioned) and the DVD format itself (the others).

-Joe


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Brodd Nesset
Re: Best structure for large project
on Aug 25, 2005 at 7:08:24 pm

Thanks! This will save me from taking the wrong route and do a lot of unnecessarry work. I will reconcider just how imperative it is to have that auto jump-back function. As for the other things, I will only have around 35-40 timelines on each of the three DVDs in the package, but that means I just hit the roof on one or two of them when it comes to the number of buttons. Darn! I meant only one color for 'not viewed', one color for 'viewed' and one for 'latest view'; just three in all. Guess I'll figure that out.


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Joe Bowden
Re: Best structure for large project
on Aug 25, 2005 at 7:19:58 pm

Three DVDs? I'm sorry...I overlooked that detail.

Then you should be able to do it with multiple timelines, no trouble at all. I would recommend using a playlist (Encore 1.5) to create a link for the Play All button. But yes, you will need two menus if you have more than 36 timelines to link to. You can do it in such a way that it appears like a single menu using Auto-Activate for the last button of menu 1 and the first button of menu 2, but it means some of your buttons will not be active depending on which menu you're at.

Hope this helps,
Joe


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