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Oliver de Morassé
Tips for shooting skiing slalom...
on May 2, 2013 at 3:15:36 pm

We have a Sony PMW-200 and would like to shoot a skiing slalom competition for a friend. Up until now, most of our work has been done in a studio and we have little experience in shooting outside nor a sporting event!

- Should we be using HD422 or is HD420 adequate?
- What about 50i or 25P?
- Any other tips on how best to setup the camera would be cool.

Many thanks, Oliver


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Don Greening
Re: Tips for shooting skiing slalom...
on May 3, 2013 at 8:47:48 pm

[Oliver de Morassé] "Should we be using HD422 or is HD420 adequate?"

If you're shooting fast action then use the less compressed 50 Mbits 422 setting. You'll have fewer compression artifacts.

[Oliver de Morassé] "- What about 50i or 25P?"

It depends on the look you're trying to achieve. If you want the illusion of speed while panning with the skier and blurring the background then go 25p. If you want smoother all around motion use 50i because it has more temporal resolution per sec.

[Oliver de Morassé] "- Any other tips on how best to setup the camera would be cool."

Protect your highlights when shooting with a snowy background and choose a picture profile setting to compliment your subject matter. Try choosing something from Alister Chapman's recommendations here:

http://www.xdcam-user.com/2009/06/xdcam-ex-cinegammas/

Cheers,

Don

Don Greening
A Vancouver Video Production Company
Reeltime Videoworks
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Oliver de Morassé
Re: Tips for shooting skiing slalom...
on May 8, 2013 at 8:58:22 am

@ Don. Thanks for your reply and tips! I am a little confused regarding the picture profiles. I looked at the link you sent and it mentions the Cinegamma picture profiles... not sure which settings to use etc. any ideas?

I did a test run - filming skiers in snow. The big problem I had was bright sunshine (blue sky), white blending snow and very colorful outfits!


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Don Greening
Re: Tips for shooting skiing slalom...
on May 8, 2013 at 8:06:21 pm

Here's a quote from Alister's article about gamma settings for the XDCAM EX cameras:

"Cinegamma 1 is tailored for shooting bright scenes or scenes where there will be large areas of highlights. CG1 is tailored for maximum highlight handling with lower shadow dynamic range compared to CG3 and CG4."

Use this setting. It can be accessed when you press the picture profile button on your camera.

- Don

Don Greening
A Vancouver Video Production Company
Reeltime Videoworks
http://www.reeltimevideoworks.com


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Oliver de Morassé
Re: Tips for shooting skiing slalom...
on May 10, 2013 at 8:35:32 am

Unfortunately, the Sony PMW-200 does not show any named picture profiles - one has to create them from scratch. Do you know what settings the Cinegamma 1 uses?


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Don Greening
Re: Tips for shooting skiing slalom...
on May 11, 2013 at 12:02:48 am

There's a good review of the PMW-200 on Alister's web site. About a 3rd of the way down in the article he talks about the picture profile gamma curves, of which there are 6. Then Alister goes on to explain the uses and results of the various curves. Hopefully you'll glean enough info from the article to customize a profile to suit your skiing subject matter.
There is a picture profile button on your 200 so make sure you're using that to view the various profiles instead of trying to find something in the camera's main menu.There are probably a few spots available in the picture profile menu where your can create your own custom set by modifying and then saving an existing one.

http://www.xdcam-user.com/reviews/cameras/review-of-the-sony-pmw-200/

- Don

Don Greening
A Vancouver Video Production Company
Reeltime Videoworks
http://www.reeltimevideoworks.com


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Brent Dunn
Re: Tips for shooting skiing slalom...
on May 7, 2013 at 5:16:26 pm

50i or interlaced filming at a higher rate is better for high speed sporting action. 24p or 25p is a film rate but it's not good for high speed sports.

Faster is better in this case. I hope you have a bunch of cameras or a helicopter. Strap a gopro on him too.

Brent Dunn
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Oliver de Morassé
Re: Tips for shooting skiing slalom...
on May 8, 2013 at 8:59:16 am

@ Brent - I like the idea of renting a helicopter ;O). Thanks for your tips.


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