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David Speace
Is this the way SxS/SDHC cards work?
on Nov 25, 2010 at 12:14:35 am

On Monday I shot a Memorial Service that lasted 44 minutes! One continuous take. When I got back to my office I put the M+R card in a reader... the video was recorded to a 16 gig SDHC card. I copied the BPAV file to the hard drive. I started up a new project in Adobe CS5. I then looked at the files in the CS5 Media Browser window. I had 4 files. I clicked in each one of them so I could see them in the Preview Window in CS5... to my surprise all 4 files where identical. I thought that the video would be broken into 4 files due to the 4 gig Fat32 limitation. So my question is why are there 4 files when they are all identical...shouldn't the 4 files be "the" continuous recording that I would have to link together by putting all 4 on the timeline to get the total 44 minutes? If all 4 files are the same... then, why are there 4, shouldn't there be just one file?

Windows 7, i7 8 core, 16 gig ram, CS5 64 bit, GeForce 4800 graphics card

Dave Speace
Producer/Director/DP
DZP Video


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Craig Seeman
Re: Is this the way SxS/SDHC cards work?
on Nov 25, 2010 at 12:34:33 am

Maybe there's a bug in CS5 support for EX .mp4 files.
Try playing the files in Sony ClipBrowser 2.6. It should play as one continuous 44 minute file there.



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David Speace
Re: Is this the way SxS/SDHC cards work?
on Nov 25, 2010 at 12:49:17 am

I will try with ClipBrowser, but the point is that all 4 files where the same... it didn't matter which one I put on the timeline... the video was the complete 44 minutes... from just one clip. This was shot with the EX1R.

Dave Speace
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DZP Video

Premiere Pro CS3
Windows XP Service Pack 3, Intel Core-2 Quad, Q6600 @2.4GHz, 3.25 GB Ram


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Craig Seeman
Re: Is this the way SxS/SDHC cards work?
on Nov 25, 2010 at 12:50:59 am

I can't help but think the problem is with CS5 though. Also check to see you didn't actually import the same first 4GB four times. It'll become obvious with ClipBrowser.



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David Speace
Re: Is this the way SxS/SDHC cards work?
on Nov 25, 2010 at 1:09:03 am

You keep saying that the file is 4Gb... the file is about 13Gb... (I'm not in my office at the moment) and each one of the 4 files is numbered consecutively... but each file when put on the timeline... doesn't matter which one I put on the timeline will play the 44 minutes of video... 4 identical files... anyway on Friday when I go to my office I will check how these files show up with ClipBrowser.

Dave Speace
Producer/Director/DP
DZP Video

Premiere Pro CS3
Windows XP Service Pack 3, Intel Core-2 Quad, Q6600 @2.4GHz, 3.25 GB Ram


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David Speace
Re: Is this the way SxS/SDHC cards work?
on Nov 25, 2010 at 1:10:28 am

I guess the original answer to my question is that it isn't supposed to work this way.

Dave Speace
Producer/Director/DP
DZP Video

Premiere Pro CS3
Windows XP Service Pack 3, Intel Core-2 Quad, Q6600 @2.4GHz, 3.25 GB Ram


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Craig Seeman
Re: Is this the way SxS/SDHC cards work?
on Nov 25, 2010 at 1:13:33 am

File would only be 13GB if joined on import. SxS/SDHC with EX is Fat32 4GB limit. It records a series of files linked by the metadata. If you have one big file and it's 44 minutes, then you have everything you need, don't you?



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David Speace
Re: Is this the way SxS/SDHC cards work?
on Nov 25, 2010 at 1:36:29 am

I understand what you are saying... yes, I had one big file and everything worked... but what showed up in the CS5 Media Browser where 4 big files... and it didn't matter which one I chose to add to the bin and the timeline. My expectation was that I would have had to add each of the 4 files in sequence to get my 44 minute video... the first clip would be 12-minutes, as would the 2nd and 3rd clips and the final clip would be 8-minutes or thereabouts. But it didn't work that way... So which way was it supposed to work... one big file... 4 big files that are the same... or 4 files in sequence?

Dave Speace
Producer/Director/DP
DZP Video

Windows 7, 64 Bit, i7 8 Core, 16Gb Ram, GeForce 4800


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Clint Fleckenstein
Re: Is this the way SxS/SDHC cards work?
on Nov 29, 2010 at 2:15:21 pm

Sounds to me like it's actually working better than expected, and that CS5 recognizes that each of the four clips you imported was part of a long continuous clip. Then when it imports each clip it does the job of joining all the segments for you, "behind the scenes" as it were.

Cf


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David Speace
Re: Is this the way SxS/SDHC cards work?
on Nov 29, 2010 at 4:23:18 pm

Yes, this is the way it is supposed to work in CS5... I guess. If I open the SxS card in Sony's ClipBrowser program it shows up as one file! I could then copy it to a directory and then open it up in CS5... however, I am skipping the ClipBrowser step because I can do the same thing in CS5's Media Browser window!

Dave Speace
Producer/Director/DP
DZP Video

Windows 7, 64 Bit, i7 8 Core, 16Gb Ram, GeForce 4800


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