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Peter Humble
Workflow question
on Sep 27, 2010 at 1:54:00 am

Hi,

I'm about to do a corporate video with an EX1 which I've only used once before. I edit solely on a Mac Desktop but will be filming in remote locations so I'll need to hire a Laptop to offload the SD card and back up.
To keep costs down I'd like to hire a PC laptop (not a Mac), download XDCAM Transfer and process the footage in the field this way.

My question then is this:
Does the Windows version of XDCAM Transfer turn the MXF files into the same codec? (XDCAM HD 1080i50 is what I need) that I can then use in FCP?
Thanks.
Peter

...I've just thought some more about this. Perhaps the following is the best:
Simply drag the BPAV folder onto my Windows machine then transfer it all to Mac when I return, THEN use XDCAM Transfer on my Mac to transcode all the footage. Does that sound right?


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Craig Seeman
Re: Workflow question
on Sep 27, 2010 at 2:11:56 am

There is no Windows XDCAM Transfer.
ClipBrowser is cross platform. As long as you just copy BPAV folder (with CRC ON) the files can be rewrapped in XDCAM Transfer which is Mac only.

I'd suggest you have enough cards that you do not have to copy cards during the shoot. Copy at end of the day when you're not in a rush to copy and wipe cards.



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Rafael Amador
Re: Workflow question
on Sep 27, 2010 at 2:24:04 am

[Craig Seeman] "There is no Windows XDCAM Transfer."
So how they do it?
rafael

http://www.nagavideo.com


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Craig Seeman
Re: Workflow question
on Sep 27, 2010 at 3:11:30 am

ClipBrowser wraps BPAV/MP4 to MXF for NLE.



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Peter Humble
Re: Workflow question
on Sep 27, 2010 at 2:32:25 am

Thanks Craig,

I don't know what CRC is?
At what point do I turn it on?
Although I'm assuming that will be obvious when I get my hands on the gear....

Peter


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Craig Seeman
Re: Workflow question
on Sep 27, 2010 at 3:12:36 am

[Peter Humble] "I don't know what CRC is?"

CRC checks integrity of the copy by doing a data parity check.
Enable it in preferences. Keep it on all the time.





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Peter Humble
Re: Workflow question
on Sep 27, 2010 at 3:18:37 am

Thanks a lot!


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David Fortin
Re: Workflow question
on Sep 27, 2010 at 9:39:29 am

Peter,

I use a PC to backup in the field. I've been doing it for a couple of years now and it works fine. As others have said, make sure "data protection" and "CRC check" are selected.

Clip browser gives each backup a new unique name (based on date and time). After they back up a card, I have my assistant REMOVE the card from the PC, and THEN select the newly backed up folder to make sure the footage is actually there.

Knock on wood, 3 years and haven't lost any footage.

Good luck,

David


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Peter Humble
Re: Workflow question
on Sep 27, 2010 at 10:11:29 am

David,

Thanks, that's great information.
I'm in awe of the help in this forum!

Peter


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jim brodie
Re: Workflow question
on Sep 27, 2010 at 11:45:50 am

Hi,

I've found the PC route goes quickly, however, I'm hearing a lot of positive things about the Nexto NVS2500 which allows you to download the cards onto a small portable hard drive. This would be perfect for remote field work .

Cheers,

Jim

http://www.cameradepartment.tv/nexto-nvs2500

Nexto NVS2500



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Bob Tompkins
Re: Workflow question
on Sep 27, 2010 at 12:06:23 pm

Peter,

Shoot some footage and upload and make sure you know what you are doing before you start. Read the directions for XDCam Transfer and Clip Browser and try them out before to make sure your workflow is what you want it to be. It is not unintuitive but if you have never done it before I would try it first.

How much more is a Mac laptop than a PC laptop? If you are more comfortable with Mac I would spend the extra money.



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Craig Seeman
Re: Workflow question
on Sep 27, 2010 at 2:42:25 pm

If one is shooting on SDHC cards, a basic MacBook has built in SDHC slot.
If one is only using SxS, a 17" MacBook Pro is the only Mac option and very expensive relative to PCs with Express ports. I think it's a real shame Apple went this route. I'm lucky enough to have a 15" MacBook Pro 2008 with Express slot although these days I'm shooting on SDHC for the most part.



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Peter Humble
Re: Workflow question
on Sep 29, 2010 at 10:28:07 pm

Just wondering how you transfer your footage to Mac from PC.
I've just spent a few hours tearing my hair out trying to reformat my external drive so it can read/write across platforms and ended up down all sorts of dark paths that are way over my head.


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Craig Seeman
Re: Workflow question
on Sep 29, 2010 at 10:41:47 pm

If you're moving the BPAV have you tried FAT32?
The cards are FAT32 and are read/write by both Mac and Windows.
Macs can read NTFS but can't write to them natively. There are some very inexpensive Mac utilities which allow them to write to NTFS. Programs like Parallels and Fusion come with those

I Bootcamped my Mac and have Parallels. I open Parallels, drag the file to Windows 7. Reboot into Windows 7 and I have a fully functional Windows computer.

Two programs that allow Macs to write to NTFS are
MacFuse
Paragon
You won't need Parallels for that.



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Peter Humble
Re: Workflow question
on Sep 29, 2010 at 10:48:58 pm

Oops, Hold everything....I just got it to work by installing TUXERA:

http://www.tuxera.com/products/tuxera-ntfs-for-mac/

I wish I had have found this a few hours ago. Seems like a great product.

So for those also wondering about this, the first step was to reformat my Mac drive to NTSF on a Windows machine. This took quite a long time. Then install TUXERA on your Mac and it just instantly picks up the newly formatted NTSF drive and gives it full read/write status.

After all that, this extremely untechie guy is very pleased with himself :)


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Craig Seeman
Re: Workflow question
on Sep 29, 2010 at 10:51:52 pm

Good find. I hadn't heard of that one.



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Bill Skinner
Re: Workflow question
on Oct 5, 2010 at 1:15:58 pm

I have been using the Sony PXU-MS240 drive system to off-load from the SxS cards without a laptop. In the last 3 months here in Afghanistan it has worked without failure transferring over 4TB of footage.

Bill Skinner
On assignment - Afghanistan



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