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Harry Pallenberg
Can one have all clips show up on disc as 1 shot?
on Apr 14, 2010 at 5:21:21 pm

Subject says it all... can you set the Xdcams to have all the recorded clips show up as 1 take on the disc?
You can do this on the JVC-700 that shoots to SDHC cards using the sony 35 codec.

What about SxS - can that be forced to show up as 1 continuous clip?


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Jay Gladwell
Re: Can one have all clips show up on disc as 1 shot?
on Apr 14, 2010 at 7:57:44 pm

Nope, because they aren't.

A "shot" (take) is from camera on to camera off.



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Harry Pallenberg
Re: Can one have all clips show up on disc as 1 shot?
on Apr 14, 2010 at 8:18:37 pm

Bummer - strange - because you can do it on the JVC... would seem like it would be easy.

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Jay Gladwell
Re: Can one have all clips show up on disc as 1 shot?
on Apr 14, 2010 at 8:35:39 pm

How is it done?

EDIT:

I think you may be referring to the issue of FAT32 on the SDHC cards, which automatically divides long takes into 12-13 minute clips. That is an *entirely* different thing.

It is NOT stitching together many shorter shots/takes. As I pointed out, it's just the opposite.


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Harry Pallenberg
Re: Can one have all clips show up on disc as 1 shot?
on Apr 15, 2010 at 4:31:23 pm

No - not a fat32 isue...

this is from the JVC site about 1/2 way down:
http://pro.jvc.com/prof/attributes/tech_desc.jsp?model_id=MDL101851&feature...

Continuous Clip Mode
In this mode, the GY-HM700 creates a single clip file from multiple trigger presses. This is ideal when "in camera editing" is preferred. The complete shot sequence is instantly available as a single clip. When recording in the Continuous Clip Mode, time code can be either free run or in the REC mode.

I also understand the new Panny 370 can do this.

And Bill - yes we can do that - but I was hoping to avoid any extra steps if we go with a SxS camera.

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Jay Gladwell
Re: Can one have all clips show up on disc as 1 shot?
on Apr 15, 2010 at 8:02:40 pm

No, the EX cameras do not have a Continuous Clip Mode.

Is that more important to you than a superior image?



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Harry Pallenberg
Re: Can one have all clips show up on disc as 1 shot?
on Apr 15, 2010 at 8:42:59 pm

Yes at least for me researching the right workflow for my boss. And quite frankly the difference in image quality is fairly minute - especially when you consider how crushed it gets when it gets put in the server (compress) then sent out a pipe to the cable / sat company and then crushed again to your home (probably with lots of splitters) where it is viewed on a TV set that is totally miss calibrated.

We get plenty of comments about how good our HD show looks - not just from general population - but from engineers, other producers and occasionally a few shooters... when in fact its DigiBeta upped to HD.

Tell a compelling story and people will never know the difference.... or if people are seeing grain / noise in the shadows then the story must be pretty boring.

The 1-clip record is not a make or break... but one of many issues.



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Bill Kunitz
Re: Can one have all clips show up on disc as 1 shot?
on Apr 14, 2010 at 8:52:21 pm

It's hard to know exactly what you're after. If the issue is wanting to see all the clips as one unit, if you are using FCP, it's easy enough to drop a whole card onto a sequence. You can then view the sequence in fcp or export it as a self contained QT .mov file and you've got one 'clip' containing the entire card.

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