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Cade Muhlig
Best FSB-6 package for EX3
on Feb 6, 2010 at 1:59:28 am

Hey
Bought an EX3 this week, so now I need to upgrade tripod.

At b&h they have two packages im considering:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/498221-REG/Sachtler_0443_0443_FSB_6T_...
and
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/498211-REG/Sachtler_0475_0475_FSB_6_C...

How is the aluminum is lighter by a pound?

FSB-6 is better than the FSB-6T for that camera yes?

Does anyone know a better package or deal for the FSB-6 in that price range?

Thank you much
Cade



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Ron Pestes
Re: Best FSB-6 package for EX3
on Feb 6, 2010 at 2:06:48 am

I have your second option and would highly recomend it. You only have one clamp per leg so it is very fast to set up. The head is great as well. BUY IT!

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Will Salley
Re: Best FSB-6 package for EX3
on Feb 6, 2010 at 2:27:22 am

I know this will be an unpopular response - but, in my opinion, carbon fiber is way overrated and Sachtler is way overpriced. I had several (DV10,DV20) where I used to work and they are nice heads, but the larger Manfrotto heads are just as smooth and durable. I don't think the lower-end Sachtler heads are as well-built as the Manfrotto 519, which is cheaper.

If you plan on adding any extras to your EX-3 rig, you might want to consider a higher capacity head. If you add a DOF adaptor or a teleprompter or rail system & mattebox, etc, the weight gets up well above 15 lbs. Mine weighs in at 18lbs (EX-3, RedRock carbon fiber rail system & mattbox, Letus Elite and SWIT 92 battery). The FSB-6 can't handle that.

Here's my suggestion:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/348777-REG/Manfrotto_519MVBKIT_3182_T...

One man's opinion.



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Rafael Amador
Re: Best FSB-6 package for EX3
on Feb 6, 2010 at 3:53:00 am

Hi Will,
I completely agree with you. I have the Manfroto head and is very good and takes more payload..
However if Cade intends to go light, I think that the FSB-6 would be great.
I want to buy a FSB-6 (with some Miller legs) jut to get rid of one pound.
Rafael

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Cade Muhlig
Re: Best FSB-6 package for EX3
on Feb 6, 2010 at 5:13:14 am

Yes definitely trying to go light. I'll check out those miller legs.


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Rafael Amador
Re: Best FSB-6 package for EX3
on Feb 6, 2010 at 5:30:03 am

Hi Cade,
Unless you need to work in a very difficult terrain, stick with the Sachtler legs.
The Miller legs may be not as stable as the Satchler (up to some feedbacks) but lets you set the tripod in places and positions that you can not get with the others.
Best,
rafael


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Cade Muhlig
Re: Best FSB-6 package for EX3
on Feb 6, 2010 at 5:44:16 am

is there any reason why i should not go with the fsb-8? as seen here http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/610342-REG/Sachtler_0772_0772_FSB_8_T...

most video i do is out of a suitcase in other countries. but it only adds like .7 pounds, and costs only $120 more. would this be the better choice?



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Don Greening
Re: Best FSB-6 package for EX3
on Feb 6, 2010 at 5:53:08 am

Something that was pointed out to me not that long ago is that carbon fibre legs are indeed lighter and stronger than aluminum but if you bend a leg, well, it doesn't bend but shatters instead and can't be repaired. Aluminum, on the other hand: if you bend a leg you can bend it back.

Something to consider if you're far away from a broadcast repair facility.

- Don


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Cade Muhlig
Re: Best FSB-6 package for EX3
on Feb 6, 2010 at 5:56:31 am

agreed, carbon fiber can shatter, but how much force would it actually take to shatter one? have you ever heard of one breaking?
I mean amputees get carbon fiber legs to run marathons on.


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john sharaf
Re: Best FSB-6 package for EX3
on Feb 6, 2010 at 6:00:27 am

Yes, they are prone breaking and cracking. It's happened to me, but so will aluminum which bends and just about every other material used in tripod legs, I've yet to see titanium legs but that surely will come.

JS





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Don Greening
EX3 Ingest
on Feb 6, 2010 at 6:02:56 am

[Cade Muhlig] " have you ever heard of one breaking? "

Yes, though not through personal experience, nor do I want to do a test on my Miller carbon legs. The owner of the broadcast supply house I deal with has had rental carbon legs break. He didn't mention how much force was required but I suspect it was considerable. He was the person who talked me out of carbon legs on my most recent tripod purchase.

My thought is that you want the most trouble free gear when you're a long way from civilization. I'm just sayin'.

- Don



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Cade Muhlig
Re: Best FSB-6 package for EX3
on Feb 6, 2010 at 6:04:24 am

thanks for your input
god bless



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Will Salley
Re: EX3 Ingest
on Feb 6, 2010 at 6:12:49 am

That's exactly what happened to ours. The legs were in the rear of a golf car (camera was on hi hat) and they got shattered by falling over and binding against something else. I can't say aluminum wouldn't have been destroyed, but it certainly destroyed the carbon fiber.




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Don Greening
Re: Best FSB-6 package for EX3
on Feb 6, 2010 at 6:20:14 am

[Will Salley] "I can't say aluminum wouldn't have been destroyed, but it certainly destroyed the carbon fiber. "

Yep, all I"m sayin' is that there's more of a chance to repair aluminum in the field than carbon fibre.

- Don




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Rafael Amador
Re: Best FSB-6 package for EX3
on Feb 6, 2010 at 5:53:48 am

As Will points, if you are not putting too many things on top of your camera, the FB-6 should be OK.
I intend to put the Century Wide adapter (800grs) and the NANO (1Lb). I think will be OK.
When I want the Fallow Focus, Monitor, etc on top, I will use the Manfrotto.
rafael



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Clint Fleckenstein
Re: Best FSB-6 package for EX3
on Feb 8, 2010 at 2:13:47 pm

I've had the FSB-6 with single lever release and carbon legs for a year or two now, and I love it. I've used it repeatedly in temperatures approaching -20F, the only situation I can think of where carbon might have a durability problem, and never had an issue. It does come with a padded bag for protection in transit.

I've had the same great performance in subzero temperatures with my Manfrotto/Bogen still camera tripod. I also ride a carbon mountain bike and have replaced lots of parts on my motorcycles with carbon fiber bits - also without incident :) I'm not riding them in the subzeros, but I've had some stuff get bonked, a couple of times at over 150 mph.

The FSB-6 head is by far the smoothest, nicest feeling head I've tried in this price range. Period. In fact, I have been planning to order a second one for a while now. Before I bought it I read every review I could hunt down, no matter how obscure. I was very pleased with the result when I received mine, and would hands-down recommend it to anyone looking for a tripod in the $1500 range.

One thing about carbon is that it's very solid. It also doesn't transfer heat/cold as well as metal, which can make it easier to grab and/or carry during temperature extremes. As far as aluminum bending...well, I've bent lots of aluminum, sometimes on purpose. It only likes to bend ONCE. That second time, especially if you're trying to straighten it, is a gamble.

Cf


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Mark O'Connell
Re: Best FSB-6 package for EX3
on Feb 14, 2010 at 9:48:04 pm

is there any reason why i should not go with the fsb-8? as seen here http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/610342-REG/Sachtler_0772_0772_FSB_8_T.....

most video i do is out of a suitcase in other countries. but it only adds like .7 pounds, and costs only $120 more. would this be the better choice?


I was going to get the FSB6 but got the FSB8 instead. I also got the single clamp carbon legs. It will not only hold more weight then the FSB6, it also has more levels of drag control and an illuminated bubble, which I find very useful. I had been using a Manfrotto 503, extremely difficult to get smooth pans with that, the Sachtler is in a whole other league. hth

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