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Tom Daigon
PMW_EX!r
on Oct 18, 2009 at 5:41:49 pm

http://www.expandore.com/product/Sony/Proav/model/XDCAM_HD/XDCAM_1.htm

Yay! Now I feel real good about getting the EX3 several weeks ago. Theres nothing here that I really want or need. What a relief!!!!



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Ron Pestes
Re: PMW_EX!r
on Oct 18, 2009 at 5:53:20 pm

Yeah, I agree. No big deal when you already have the -3.

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Craig Seeman
Re: PMW_EX!r
on Oct 18, 2009 at 6:03:02 pm

Some of the "big" things are:

Cache Record up to 15 seconds
HDMI out
Standard Def recording
One push Auto Iris
One push for S&Q change
New View Finder
Camera holding
Switch improvements
Firmware upgrade by users.
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Big for me would be cache recording and HDMI out. If cache recording could be implemented in a firmware upgrade I'd accept that. HDMI out allows for lower cost monitoring in some cases. The rest are nice but maybe not mission critical.


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Tom Daigon
Re: PMW_EX!r
on Oct 18, 2009 at 7:24:58 pm

Someone said they dropped the HD_SDI for HDMI. If they got rid of HD-SDI...MAJOR bummer. By hooking this cam up to a Nanoflash or AJA Ki Pro suddenly you are sending an uncompressed 4:2:2 signal to either device. This instead of a compressed 4:2:0 to an SXS card or whatever. This makes the cameras signal output something to rival cameras that cost many times more!



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Ron Pestes
Re: PMW_EX!r
on Oct 18, 2009 at 7:33:57 pm

I also wonder if they made it to not accept the SDHC card setup.

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Craig Seeman
Re: PMW_EX!r
on Oct 18, 2009 at 8:56:29 pm

http://www.expandore.com/product/Sony/Proav/model/XDCAM_HD/XDCAM_1.htm

The same firmware allows the use of Sony's hard drive recorder so I think that would be hard and pointless to implement a block.



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Michael Palmer
Re: PMW_EX!r
on Oct 18, 2009 at 8:01:24 pm

I would rather continue with SDI as HDMI doesn't support timecode.

Good Luck
Michael Palmer


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Craig Seeman
Re: PMW_EX!r
on Oct 18, 2009 at 8:54:10 pm

http://www.expandore.com/product/Sony/Proav/model/XDCAM_HD/XDCAM_1.htm

HD-SDI out is still in the specs



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Michael DeRario
Re: PMW_EX!r
on Oct 18, 2009 at 9:48:28 pm

Any word on when the EX1R will be released. I just ordered the EX1 a week ago so I am trying to figure out what to do. Keep it? or exchange it?

-Mike D


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Nick Righton
Re: PMW_EX!r
on Oct 19, 2009 at 1:28:40 am

I thought the same thing about the HD-SDI at first but then realized that was a listing of the original EX1 specs (see recording mode etc and the top of the table). I hope they include HD-SDI on the EX1R.

I wish I was good at one thing rather than average at many, but oh well.


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Rafael Amador
Re: PMW_EX!r
on Oct 19, 2009 at 2:45:28 am

Scroll down the "Expandore" page and you will see the full specs.
States that there is a BNC for SDI out.
I think this camera comes with a bunch of new things.
What is interesting is to see that they have loaded all the setups for SD.
Few weeks ago they released a new DVCam.
While there are more HD production, the HD distribution is not fallowing the path.
rafael

http://www.nagavideo.com


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Steve Wargo
Re: PMW_EX!r
on Oct 19, 2009 at 3:47:38 am

[Rafael Amador] "HD distribution is not fallowing the path"

We just completed a 2 minute nation spot for a dog heath product and no one will take an HD package. Of course "no one" doesn't mean everyone but it does include some major distribution networks. Digibeta yes, HDCAM No.

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Noah Kadner
Re: PMW_EX!r
on Oct 19, 2009 at 4:45:30 am

Hmm- link is gone- anyone else got another link?

Noah

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Michael Palmer
Re: PMW_EX!r
on Oct 19, 2009 at 1:06:44 pm

I still had the page up and was able to copy this from it.

Sony XDCAM HD Camcorder
PMW-EX1R

XDCAM EX PMW-EX1R
XDCAM HD Camcorder
Imager 1/2 Full HD
Lens Full Manual
Recording format 1920x1080 (Full HD)
SD Yes
LCD panel 3.5 inch wide 921,600 pixels
Media SxS (Express card)
Recording time(32GB) 100min
Cache rec Yes
HDMI Yes

Product code :PMWEX1R


Major New Functions

SD Recording

HDMI Output

New View Finder

Cache Rec

One Push Auto Iris

Major Improvements
Camera holding improvement
One push mode change for S&Q
Quicker Start
Switches and Jog Dial improvements
Firmware version up by users
SONY XDCAM HD Camcorder PMW-EX1R
SD recording is supported in addition to the current HD recording.
.avi extension is used for SD files
.avi type2 files is the most acceptable file for major NLE systems
PAL and NTSC switchable
60i, 50i, 30p* and 25p* are supported
4:3 and 16:9 can be switched for recording
–SQ (Squeez) and EC(Edge Crop) mode are selectable
Clip Browser will support SD clips
HD clips and SD clips can be existed in the same SxS media
Only HD clips will be displayed at the HD mode
Only SD clips will be displayed at the SD mode
Both clips will be displayed only “All clip thumbnail” mode
-Playback is not available from this mode
HDMI Output
A standard HDMI connector (TypeA) is provided
Non-compressed video and 2ch audio are output via HDMI connector
“Auto configuration” function is provided
–Automatic detect for monitor type such as HDMI or DVI
Notes
HDMI is not available to use with other outputs
Recorded format HD HDMI SD HDMI Progressive SD HDMI Interlace
1920x1080 60i(50i) 1 920x1080 60i(50i) 720x480(576) 60p(50p) 720x480(576) 60i(50i)
1920x1080 30p(25p) 1920x1080 30psf(25psf) 720x480(576) 60p(50p) 720x480(576) 30psf(25psf)
1920x1080 24p 1920x1080 60i 720x480 60p(pull down) 720x480 60i(pull down)
1280x720 60p(50p) 1280x720 60p(50p) 720x480 60p(50p) 720x480 60i(50i)
1280x720 30p(25p) 1280x720 30p(25p) 720x480 60p(50p) 720x480 30psf(25psf)
1280x720 24p 1280x720 60p(pull down) 720x480 60p(pull down) 720x480 60i(pull down)
720x480(576) 60i(50i) No output No output 720x480(576) 60i(50i)
720x480(576) 30psf(25psf) No output No output 720x480(576) 30psf(25psf)
High resolution View Finder
0.45” 852 (H)x3(RGB) x 480 (V) LCD display
Same LCOS panel as Z7 and Z5 (LCOS:Liquid Crystal On Silicon )
Field sequential method is adopted for LCOS and it realizes higher resolution
The world first professional handy camcorder having this function
Cache rec On/Off set and Cache rec time can be set
Max Cache rec time is 15sec
Cache rec time can be selected by menu
Cache rec mode is indicated by green LED indicator

One push auto iris button is added
Auto Iris is worked during the button is
pushed, when EX1R is working on the
manual iris mode
Same operation style as higher grade
lens.
Improvement the shape of Grip
Better hold by padded palm
Better to fit for hands
Improvement of grip belt
Improved the belt position
Easier adjustment to the hand
One touch operation for Normal and S&Q mode change
–(ex.) 1080/60i <- -> 720/24p with 60p S&Q

EX1 requires Format change and S&Q mode on
(long distance on the menu)

S&Q switch realize one touch operation for S&Q
S&Q preset is available on the menu
Format and Frame rate can be preset for S&Q
S&Q button can change the mode instantly
Blue LED will be lit when S&Q mode
Power switch Improvement
Push and slide for power on
Just slide for power off
Other switches improvements
Add protection guide
Orange colored for easy
understanding of switch position
Jog dial
Adjust the surface position for easier operation
EX1R’s firmware can be version up by users
Downloadable from Sony web site to SxS
If the user failed for version up, EX1R should be
taken to the Sony service center. (charge base)


More new functions and improvements
Smooth Start/Stop for handle zoom
Reverse scan
Additional Accessory Shoe
Audio limiter improvement
1440x1080, 35Mbps recording
ATW Hold
Wider controllable area for color correction
White Balance Preset
Picture quality improvement for Analog composite output
Message for Zebra and Peaking
SP24P clip indicate on Thumbnail mode
2.4:1, 2.35:1 Marker
Additional IR remote control from rear side
All clips copy function for Slot-to-slot copy
OK mark adding on Camera mode
Playback start from Clip information view
More stable position for Stabilizer Smooth start/stop for Handle Zoom
“Zoom Trans” menu is added
Effects for Handle zoom and IR zoom.


Reverse the image upside down and left/Right for DOF adaptor
What is DOF adaptor?
Adaptor to use Cine lens or still camera lens for Video Camera
Picture on the VF and recorded picture will be reversed
Reverse Scan function can normalize the reversed image

Good Luck
Michael Palmer


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Tim Kolb
Re: PMW_EX!r
on Oct 19, 2009 at 5:19:19 am

[Tom Daigon] "Someone said they dropped the HD_SDI for HDMI. If they got rid of HD-SDI...MAJOR bummer. By hooking this cam up to a Nanoflash or AJA Ki Pro suddenly you are sending an uncompressed 4:2:2 signal to either device."

Either device you mentioned takes an HDMI input. Bummer averted.



TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,


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Tom Daigon
Re: PMW_EX!r
on Oct 19, 2009 at 2:02:18 pm

yes but HDMI doesnt carry timecode info like HDSDI does.



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Michael Palmer
Re: PMW_EX!r
on Oct 19, 2009 at 2:10:18 pm

If you ever need more than one EX1r on a shoot and want matching timecode then currently you would need to try and set (at the same instance) the clocks to the exact same time, other wise you need the EX3. However if you have 2 Nano's on each of these EX1r's I believe the Nano can be given timecode from an external device like the lockit box so SDI really isn't a problem to lose.

Good Luck
Michael Palmer


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Rafael Amador
Re: PMW_EX!r
on Oct 19, 2009 at 3:04:44 pm

The new EX-1r still have the SDI out as EX-1/3.
Rafael

http://www.nagavideo.com


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Tim Kolb
Re: PMW_EX!r
on Oct 19, 2009 at 9:51:56 pm

[Tom Daigon] "yes but HDMI doesnt carry timecode info like HDSDI does."

Ah...now I understand. Unfortunately very true.




TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,


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Brent Dunn
Re: PMW_EX!r
on Oct 20, 2009 at 9:54:16 pm

Here is a link to the video overview.

http://pro.sony.com/bbsccms/ext/xdcamex/xdcamex102009.shtml?PID=O:xdcamexte...


I like the flip image in case I'm using a lens adaptor. That'll save me $500 by itself.

The overcrank/undercrank button is a nice bonus since you have to fumble in the menu to set this currently.

Brent Dunn
DunnRight Video.com

Brent Dunn
Owner / Director / Editor
DunnRight Video.com


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Brent Dunn
Re: PMW_EX!r
on Oct 20, 2009 at 10:07:50 pm

They also added an extra shoe mount which is a nice bonus.

The tripod mount on the bottom has been redesigned. I've heard others in this forum that have had their plate crack or rip open.

The handle is more centered.

Zoom eases in and out if set this way.

Brent Dunn
Owner / Director / Editor
DunnRight Video.com


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