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Jon Jivan
Playing Edited Footage on PMW-EX1
on Jan 22, 2009 at 7:32:39 pm

Is is possible to import playable footage back onto the SxS cards?

Copying an XDCAM mp4 file into the camera doesn't appear to work. The camera won't read it. The Final Cut option "Sony XDCAM Export" creates an MXF file which the camera also does not recognize. I'm assuming the camera also needs all the other files (SMI, PPN, XML, BIM) along with the MP4 to play a clip.

Might there be a way to extract these files from the MXF Final Cut makes?


Thanks for your help!

Jon
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Craig Seeman
Re: Playing Edited Footage on PMW-EX1
on Jan 22, 2009 at 7:58:28 pm

It seems you're part way there. Use the Sony XDCAM Export to create the MP4. Then import the MP4 into ClipBrowser 2.00.01 and it should create the full BPAV folder for you. Try putting that on to an SxS card. You might get a "Restore Media" when you put the SxS back into the camera. You can Execute that. It won't hurt the file. It's just fixing a structure issue if found.



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Jon Jivan
Re: Playing Edited Footage on PMW-EX1
on Jan 22, 2009 at 9:08:20 pm

I don't see a clear way of exporting a MP4 with Final Cut's "Export: Sony XDCAM" option. I always get an MXF when using it.

Final Cut can export to MP4 using the"Export: Quicktime Conversion: MPEG-4" option but this isn't XDCAM format and the resulting file doesn't import into Clip Browser



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Edit: Looks like I have an outdated version of XDCAM Transfer. I'll try again after updating.


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Craig Seeman
Re: Playing Edited Footage on PMW-EX1
on Jan 22, 2009 at 9:33:45 pm

Here's the video I created on using the Sony XDCAM Export tool in FCP.
FCP XDCAM Export


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Jon Jivan
Re: Playing Edited Footage on PMW-EX1
on Jan 22, 2009 at 10:36:27 pm

I got everything figured out and it works. Thanks for your help!



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Baz Leffler
Re: Playing Edited Footage on PMW-EX1
on Jan 23, 2009 at 12:23:16 am

I may be a bit late on this but this is how I do it...

Export the FCP timeline to the required XDCAM EX format (VBR) directly to the SxS card.

Place the card back in the camera go to the setup menu and select -

OTHERS > CLIP > UPDATE > MEDIA and choose the SxS card that has the exported sequence.

Then it's all good! It will show up in thumbnails on the camera as well as the XDCAM transfer software on the puter.

Baz
(from an earlier post)

What would I do without the 'UNDO' button!!!!


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Craig Seeman
Re: Playing Edited Footage on PMW-EX1
on Jan 23, 2009 at 12:36:00 am

Good tip! Nice explanation of the Clip/Update feature. It's native to the EX3 but the EX1 gets that menu option with the 1.11 firmware update. The update button builds the BPAV folder.



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Baz Leffler
Re: Playing Edited Footage on PMW-EX1
on Jan 24, 2009 at 2:36:07 am

Another great if not unknown feature of this 'timeline to XDCAM to SxS to camera' treatment is that the timeline's timecode is embedded into the final media file - and more important, when you play it on the camera out the HD-SDI connector to a HDCAM deck switched to 'sdi timecode' your original timeline timecode becomes the HDCAM's master timecode - W A Y T O G O ! ! !

Baz

What would I do without the 'UNDO' button!!!!


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Michael Palmer
Re: Playing Edited Footage on PMW-EX1
on Jan 23, 2009 at 3:21:48 pm

Love this video, I need you to make a video tutorial on how to make a video.

MP


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Rafael Amador
Jon: Set it properly..
on Jan 23, 2009 at 2:04:18 pm

I think that the easier option is the XDCAM Export option in FC.
But you must check the .mp4 when you go to the SxS card:



Right from the time-line. Really fast: No Re-compression, no loose because is just a re-wrap back.
Just select format. FC set the SxS card as the destination if is in the slot.
Cheers,
rafael

http://www.nagavideo.com


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Craig Seeman
Re: Jon: Set it properly..
on Jan 23, 2009 at 2:45:58 pm

Rafael did you see the video I posted in response?
FCP XDCAM MP4




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Rafael Amador
Re: Jon: Set it properly..
on Jan 23, 2009 at 4:02:14 pm

Sorry Craig. the truth is that the first time was taking too long to download the video took and I didn't fully watched.
As you did it I think is interesting when dealing with independent clips, because you keep the original clip name and TC.
So far I've been uploading some full sequence from the time-line. No clips.
rafael



http://www.nagavideo.com


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Craig Seeman
COW Video Posts
on Jan 23, 2009 at 4:36:03 pm

[Rafael Amador] "the truth is that the first time was taking too long to download the video"
This is a new COW feature. Unfortunately there are issues with playback. The tutorial I uploaded was only about 6MB which should be very fast playback. It seems COW makes the file size much larger or has a slow buffer issue.

[Rafael Amador] "As you did it I think is interesting when dealing with independent clips, because you keep the original clip name and TC. "
One reason to keep the original is that you have to change stereo audio to dual mono as XDCAM MP4 and MXF will only handle mono audio tracks.

I'd be posting more tutorials but yes, playback is painfully slow even with very small file size.





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Rafael Amador
Re: COW Video Posts
on Jan 23, 2009 at 4:49:23 pm

Hi Craig,
Is not the fault of the video, is just the speed that my Internet connexion allow me tonight.
BTW it's supposed to be a 4GBs limit when exporting to XDCAM. had you tried to export more than that?
As you point you need to change the audio to two mono channel to export. I had to do the same to the sequences I exported. Mostly I've been uploading to the SxS card to recapture as SD in Proress. Pefect and fast downscaling.
Cheers,
rafael

http://www.nagavideo.com


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Christoph Zarfl
Re: Playing Edited Footage on PMW-EX1
on Feb 22, 2009 at 9:27:13 am

I found some articles which say that it works - but none of the articles says how it works - so if anybody knows please let us know!

Thank you Chris



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Rafael Amador
Re: Playing Edited Footage on PMW-EX1
on Feb 22, 2009 at 12:49:25 pm

Just put the EX-1 footage in an EX-1 sequence and hit "Export to SONY XDCAM".
Just be careful don't try to export more than 4GB.
rafael



http://www.nagavideo.com


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Christoph Zarfl
Re: Playing Edited Footage on PMW-EX1
on Feb 22, 2009 at 7:12:40 pm

Thank you for your fast awnser!

I donĀ“t have the option to export to the XDCAM EX formats - and I get the message "the current sequense settings are unsupported - see the screenshot:



what software do I have to install?

Thank you chris



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Craig Seeman
Re: Playing Edited Footage on PMW-EX1
on Feb 22, 2009 at 7:33:31 pm

Make sure you have most recent versions of Sony software.
ClipBrowser 2.00.01
XDCAM Transfer 2.8.0
Final Cut Pro 6.0.5
Make sure you're using an XDCAM EX easy setup.
Select the Sequence and use Sequence Settings and make sure Audio Output is set to Dual Mono



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Christoph Zarfl
Re: Playing Edited Footage on PMW-EX1
on Feb 22, 2009 at 7:58:14 pm

Thank you very much!!!

After updating to XDCAM Transfer 2.8.0 it worked!

Thank you - that makes me supe happy :-) !!!





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Christoph Zarfl
Re: Playing Edited Footage on PMW-EX1
on Feb 23, 2009 at 9:17:29 am

Do you know if the EX1 has embeded Audio on the SDI outputs?
I want to conect it to a "digibeta" - do you know if there are any problems?

Thank you very much chris



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Rafael Amador
Re: Playing Edited Footage on PMW-EX1
on Feb 23, 2009 at 10:35:08 am

Hi Christoph,
Yes you have the two audio channels embed in the SDI.
I haven't tried to capture to DigiBeta, but I did capture through the AJA ioHD to my Mac.
Works great.
rafael

http://www.nagavideo.com


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