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Timothy Allen
Picture flip ???
on Oct 8, 2008 at 5:38:51 am

Can the EX-3 flip the picture upside down for use with lens adapters?



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Michael Palmer
Re: Picture flip ???
on Oct 8, 2008 at 4:51:37 pm

The EX3 has a new enhanced view finder/onboard monitor that YES does have a switch (mirror image) to flip the image. I don't believe this flips any other outputs for monitoring, however I have tried it as yet.

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Michael Palmer


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Timothy Allen
Re: Picture flip ???
on Oct 8, 2008 at 5:25:22 pm

Good news!

Though it'd be nice to flip the recorded image and all the outputs, at least this makes acquiring the picture that much less of a headache.

Thanks for the reply Micheal!

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Michael Palmer
Re: Picture flip ???
on Oct 8, 2008 at 5:38:41 pm

If that is important to you then purchase or rent an adapter that flips the image before the camera. However this feature could come at a cost as it adds more optics along the way. It is too easy to flip it in the edit, and if you have a mount for an external monitor you can flip it.

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Michael Palmer


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Timothy Allen
Re: Picture flip ???
on Oct 8, 2008 at 6:02:37 pm

All true!

I've been looking at the Cinemek adapter because it has no moving parts, and has less light loss because it doesn't have extra optics to flip the image.

It's between that and the Letus. I own a Redrock M2, but I'm having serious issues with that and the EX1!

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Michael Palmer
Re: Picture flip ???
on Oct 8, 2008 at 6:22:26 pm

I purchase the M-2 as well, it was a nightmare and so was dealing with the company. I gave them every opportunity to properly resolve my issues and they simply don't have any customer service to speak of. If I where you I would pack that M-2 up and send it back if you haven't already. I purchased it directly from RRM at NAB 08 and they knew it didn't work properly with the EX1 (that they had there without the M-2 mounted to it) and sold it to me knowing it was for my EX1 anyway. FYI I just left a message at Letus asking about their return policy before, I need a 30 day return policy with satisfaction guaranteed before I will purchase. I'm sure it won't be long before a single chip is introduced and perhaps it will come from Canon, check this out, it shoots HD video too
http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=7-9316-9607


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Michael Palmer


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Don Greening
Re: Picture flip ???
on Oct 8, 2008 at 6:29:27 pm

Hey Michael,

There's some film samples already online from the EOS 5D if you're interested:

http://vincentlaforet.smugmug.com/gallery/6021407_xEg87/1/#378608891_Jd2CT-...

- Don




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Michael Palmer
Re: Picture flip ???
on Oct 8, 2008 at 6:48:07 pm

You did notice I didn't bring up the M-2 in the thread.

Is this footage from the D5 mark II because it isn't out yet.
Great footage, what do you think will single chip cameras replace the 3 chip units soon?

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Michael Palmer


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Don Greening
Re: Picture flip ???
on Oct 8, 2008 at 7:08:16 pm

[Michael Palmer] "Is this footage from the D5 mark II because it isn't out yet. "

The other day I downloaded the whole 5D movie from the Canon web site. I should have kept it because I just went back to the link and the movie isn't available at the moment because:

"Due to high demand of video clips we have exceeded our download capacity."

But here is the original link anyway because you can still get frame grabs from the movie.

http://www.usa.canon.com/dlc/controller?act=GetArticleAct&articleID=2086

I really don't know what to make of this emerging technology. I talked to the owner of a local still camera shop the other day and he called this new capability of the EOS 5D "blasphemy." So it's going to take awhile for content creators to accept that the line between still cameras and motion picture cameras is getting very blurry, indeed.

As far as single sensors are concerned, I guess as improvement in chip technology moves forward it may become less of an issue as to whether or not you own a 3 chip or a single large chip camera. The RED ONE is a perfect example of a single CMOS camera that has stellar picture quality with incredibly shallow DOF because the sensor is so big. Time will tell.

- Don



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Timothy Allen
Re: Picture flip ???
on Oct 8, 2008 at 10:06:24 pm

So what lens adapter do you prefer, then? Are you familiar with the Cinemek G35? Thoughts?

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Michael Palmer
Re: Picture flip ???
on Oct 8, 2008 at 10:25:03 pm

I don't own one however I am interested in the Letus and now the Cinemek you suggested. I had correspondence with Letus today with return policy concerns and they have waived the 20% restocking fee if returned in re sellable condition within 15 days of delivery. Seems fair. Letus has the PL mount and claims their adapter works great with the EX series cameras. Cinemek does offer support as yet for the EX cameras and only 1 lens mount for Nikon. I'm in no worry to purchase one of these products. The Letus does flip the image. Do you have any thoughts?

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Michael Palmer


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Timothy Allen
Re: Picture flip ???
on Oct 8, 2008 at 11:44:10 pm

Oh I have all sorts of thoughts! And right now I feel very much torn between the two units.

I appreciate the fact that the Cinemek G35 has no moving parts, and a shield to go over the stock lens focus and zoom control and alleviate some of the stress when it comes to back focus issues - major issue with the M2. I'm a big fan of the Cinemek not having any moving parts, and not have to worry about swapping out batteries in the middle of a shoot or something silly like that.

A big bonus about the Letus is that it flips the image, but as long as I can flip it the viewfinder - such as is possible with the EX3 - then it's no big deal. Like you said earlier, flipping it in post is too easy.

So I guess the next question is how important is it to have a PL mount. I don't own glass of that caliber, but I would like to some day.

(Looking at these guys here! Be interested to hear your (anybody's) thoughts on these as well.)

So... my thoughts? In my head right now they both in a tight race. I think the new Letus Ultimate would really be the way to go, but it's in the $4k price range, so it's not quite a player against a $1200 Cinemek.

So there's that...



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Don Greening
Re: Picture flip ???
on Oct 8, 2008 at 6:22:50 pm

[Timothy Allen] "I own a Redrock M2, but I'm having serious issues with that and the EX1!"

Don't get Michael started on that topic :-)

- Don


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