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Lawrence Gray
Microphones
on Jun 18, 2008 at 5:17:28 pm

What's the best Mike for using with the XdCam for shooting something like a sit-com, i.e. dialogue? Anyone with any opinions on this?


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john sharaf
Re: Microphones
on Jun 18, 2008 at 5:40:30 pm

Lawrence.

The best Mike is a soundman named Mike (or otherwise) that has a mixer. boom and shotgun microphone like a Sennheisser 416 or comperable cardioid microphones made by Neumann, Scheops or Sanken. In addition the soundperson might also have body pack wireless mikes and appropriate laveliers and methods of hiding them if required, for clos up sound on characters that move around a lot in wide shots. He (or she) will also have a cable to connect two tracks of the mixer to the camera with a foldback cable to monitor the e-to-e connection at the camera. In extreme cases, where there are many speakers, you might consider iso recording each on a multitrack digital recorder like the Sound Devices 744T which can also re4cord the cameras time code for reference.

If you're thinking of putting the mike on the camera, then it doesn't matter what mike you use, the sound will be inconsistent and thin unless the person speaking is several feet away from the camera and doesn't move. Even an a sit-down interview will be off mike.

JS



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Noah Kadner
Re: Microphones
on Jun 19, 2008 at 12:13:19 pm

[john sharaf] "The best Mike is a soundman named Mike (or otherwise) that has a mixer. boom and shotgun microphone like a Sennheisser 416 or comperable cardioid microphones made by Neumann, Scheops or Sanken. In addition the soundperson might also have body pack wireless mikes and appropriate laveliers and methods of hiding them if required, for clos up sound on characters that move around a lot in wide shots. He (or she) will also have a cable to connect two tracks of the mixer to the camera with a foldback cable to monitor the e-to-e connection at the camera. In extreme cases, where there are many speakers, you might consider iso recording each on a multitrack digital recorder like the Sound Devices 744T which can also re4cord the cameras time code for reference."

Ha ha ha- I strongly second the use of "Mike." He is a great asset to your show and will result in clean, excellent production sound up front. Rather than either compromised un-pro sound or a lot of headaches and expensive ADR time in post. Good call.

Noah

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Arnljot Bringedal
REcord timecode??
on Jun 20, 2008 at 8:49:53 am


NOw you have my attention: How can the sound device record the EX1 timecode?

Was under the impressions that the ex1 had no such feature....

*** Norwegian videojournalist & Editor***


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Don Greening
Re: REcord timecode??
on Jun 20, 2008 at 7:32:35 pm

[Arnljot Bringedal] "NOw you have my attention: How can the sound device record the EX1 timecode?"

The original poster didn't specify a particular camera like the EX1 but seemed to be referring to XDCAM in general.

- Don



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Noah Kadner
Re: REcord timecode??
on Jun 21, 2008 at 2:55:34 pm

Yup- no audio timecode out on the EX1. But that doesn't mean it's impossible. For example get an audio timecode generator and feed it to all cameras on the same audio track and you'll get poor man's audio timecode sync.

Noah

My FCP Blog. Unlock the secrets of the DVX100, HVX200 and Apple Color and Win a Free Letus Extreme.
Now featuring the Sony EX1 Guidebook and Sound for Film and TV.
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Arnljot Bringedal
would this work Noah?
on Jun 22, 2008 at 8:11:04 pm

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/406894-REG/Denecke_GR_1_GR_1_Master_C...

with the ex1?

*** Norwegian videojournalist & Editor***


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Steve Wargo
Re: Microphones
on Jun 19, 2008 at 5:34:50 am

Mike who?

Steve Wargo
Tempe, Arizona
It's a dry heat!

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5 Final Cut (not quite PRO) systems
Sony HVR-M25 HDV deck
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Derek Hall
Re: Microphones
on Jun 22, 2008 at 11:58:46 am

Hi Lawrence,
It's not so much a case of finding the right mics to match the EX1 camera, but rather finding the best mic for the situation.
You'll find most people agree on the usual suspects: Schoeps, Sanken, Sennheiser, Neumann.
Visit a discount store and get a few cheap blankets to hang as sound baffles.
For more audio-oriented advice check out this forum:

http://forums.creativecow.net/forum/audioprofessionals#858442

Good luck


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