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Tom Ackroyd
Lightworks
on Apr 23, 2003 at 10:18:01 pm

Not so much an axegrind, or then again maybe it is... but I've never seen anyone post anything about Lightworks on the Cow. (OK, I just did a search and found one thread on the Discreet edit forum last year.) It was my first NLE, and by far and away the best interface I've ever used, for any application let alone an NLE. To cut on Lightworks was a dream. Fast, easy, intuitive, a beautiful controller, no mouse/keyboard/controller lag. No trim modes, just curl the tracks, any tracks, all at once. No in/outs, just mark & park. The key to its success (as some have it - please don't take offence!) is that it was designed by editors, not programmers. Historically it lost out to Avid, which in comparison was (is?) a bit of a dog. (The Betamax/VHS syndrome.) Of course I am open to being accused of not comparing apples with apples... I've ended up being more of a compositor and am happy with Final Cut. But only up to a point. And this is, after all, an axegrinding forum.

How many people still use Lightworks? Anyone reading this? What's Touch like? How is it for compositing, or is it still "just" for cutting? How does Touch work in with other software?

I have this dream that the Lightworks interface and philosophy will never die, and will resurface to become, again, the tool of choice for editors. (Still used for features, although in what proportion to Avid or other systems I don't know - Thelma Schoonmaker cut Casino, Kundun, Bringing out the dead & Gangs of New York on Heavyworks.)

Any thoughts?

Tom Ackroyd


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marisu fronc
Re: Lightworks
on Apr 24, 2003 at 1:21:33 pm

Tom -

Lightworks re-emerged last year at NAB - although the sales have not been overwhelming, it is once again finding it's niche. When I demoed it ti was still "just for cutting" - it is an editor's editor - but probably better suited to feature work because of that than the multiple types of demands (compositing, character generation, etc) you are more likely to find throughout video production.;

slainte,
marisu


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mark harvey
Re: Lightworks
on Apr 25, 2003 at 12:00:09 pm

Funny this came up...just recieved my new copy of Post magazine (April 2003)...and on page 34 they do an interview with Thelma Schoonmaker, editor of many huge films....they have a photo of her and the caption, "Using a Lightworks NLE allows Thelma Schoonmaker to quickly provide director Martin Scoresese with a series of editing options." I hope post don't mind me reprinting this...I have to say that each month I look forward to recieving this magazine...if you are not subscribed you probably want to be..it is awesome :-)

Best,
Mark


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ric marty
Re: Lightworks
on Apr 26, 2003 at 6:24:24 pm

This is what you are looking for.

http://www.freewebs.com/extremepowersite/guestbook.htm

check it out

ric marty


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Jay Volk
Re: Lightworks
on Jun 21, 2003 at 3:52:08 pm

Rick, yes extreme does look cool... it's a damn shame noone can return an email from the company tho'. I emailed a long time ago (weeks) and nobody ever responded. I don't see that as a good sign. I would like to see a demo of the software/hardware. It looks interesting.... but apparently they don't want to sell it...

(since this the axe grining forum)
Jay


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ric marty
Re: Lightworks
on Jun 22, 2003 at 2:51:29 am

Jay,

Yes it's a shame that such a great product does not have the marketing it needs kind of reminds me of discreet edit. If it where backed by a company with deep pockets, it could be the wintel answer to fcp. At the moment it can go head to head with most fcp and avid dv, on feature by feature and win in most.

The company is small it is owned by a husband and wife team and a group of russian engineers and programers. Its not a big outfit and they are still getting organized after having purchased the company last year. I know that they just opened an office in San Fransisco.

But the product rocks, Its intelirendering alone is a masterpiece,just imagine having multi video layers and multi applied efxs, then you noticed that the hue is not what you like, in extreme you just change the hue values and render only the hue change, in anyother nle you would have to render everything. This is just one of its many strong points. There are many more great points but since they do not have a demo it is difficult to make people invest in product that is not well known. It is a great editor, compositor and 2 d animator all in one.

The owners e-mail is daniella@cinegy.com or daniella@aist.com


However if you can spare a couple of hundred bucks there is an alternative The old USA aist company still has a few extreme ver 4 left, you can get the top of the line with all the compositing features and plugins for less than $400. then you can to yhe new ver 6 for a small price. (you can also buy a lesser version without composting for much less)

the e-mail is hughes@startouch.net the ex ceo is Keith Huges.

If you have any other nle you can cross upgrade through the German Office and get vers 6 which includes a great 3d program called movie 3d, this is a version of realsoft.com (Its almost the same just a couple of plugins missing) However i must say that the Germans are not to keen on the old aist selling it because the product in usa contray to the rest of the world is sold without the need for dongles, but by law they must comply and give you an upgrade path.


Any way, if you decide to purchase be shure to check your tech specs beforhand.


cheers


ric marty
rycar_m(at)yahoo.com


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