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Ben Edwards
Anyone had any experiencefor Axel You Play
on Sep 9, 2014 at 6:08:41 pm

It is a TV station playout system which supports decklink cards. Was wondering if I could play through SDI and use a splitter to get audio out of HDMI.

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Bob Zelin
Re: Anyone had any experiencefor Axel You Play
on Sep 10, 2014 at 7:01:26 pm

http://www.softronmedia.com/products/ontheairvideo.html

what do I get - a cookie ?

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Ben Edwards
Re: Anyone had any experiencefor Axel You Play
on Sep 11, 2014 at 12:03:04 am

Bob,

Sorry, I am a bit confused. Will give a bit more background. I am involved in a volunteer run cinema. We have a full digital cinema set-up and show films from DCPs. We also run other events such as a bring your own film night (like a open mic night). For this people bring a variety of file types (lots H.264, prores and other quicktime flavours). I was looking for something for playout for this type of event and came across 'Axel You Play'. We are using a Blackmagic Mini Monitor card to connect to the projector via SDI. The problem is it seem to be sending the audio to the card also (cant find a way of routing it to the sound card). I think it must be sending it to the cards HDMI output. Was thinking of trying to get a box to extract the audio from the HDMI.

So was trying to find someone who understands the software and how it is used. The piece of software you linked to may be great but is way above our merger budget (whitch we kind of spent on the card).

Ben
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Paolo Castellano
Re: Anyone had any experiencefor Axel You Play
on Sep 11, 2014 at 12:49:10 pm

Hi,
many playout systems doesn't allow to route the audio to the sound card because it may introduce A/V out of sync. If you want to de-embed the audio, there are several options.
The best one would be to use another BMD card like Decklink Studio 2 or 4K that has all the A/V outputs you may need.
If you want to use the Decklink Mini Monitor, how many audio channels you may need to de-embed?
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Neil Sadwelkar
Re: Anyone had any experiencefor Axel You Play
on Sep 12, 2014 at 6:31:08 am

I'm doing something like this in a theatre which I helped set up with a DCP server and projector. We invite people to view their work-in progress edits here. But we manage by insisting that they get ProRes files. Which in almost any NLE are easy to export. People export them for sound ref anyway.

But, in my experience, finding a player which can play all of the formats you mention out through SDI is probably not possible. If you do find such a player, then let me know.

About the sound, as suggested, you need to consider de-embedding it from the SDI or HDMI. Picture off SDI/HDMI and sound off the sound card may introduce sync issues particularly on longer sequences.

As an aside, consider using FCP 7 as a 'playback engine'.

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Paolo Castellano
Re: Anyone had any experiencefor Axel You Play
on Sep 12, 2014 at 5:01:47 pm

Hi Neil,
Axel Technology Youplay is a well designed contribution player designed to playback most kind of files with all the options that you may require. It exists in a free version but the professional versions may be expansive.
I think it is based on FFmpg so it should be able to playback all the most used file formats (I had a demo version for a couple of months and it was able to playback all of my files).

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Ben Edwards
Re: Anyone had any experiencefor Axel You Play
on Sep 12, 2014 at 6:26:29 pm

Neil,

Bit harsh for non apple users, exporting prores on windows is beyond most people. I would suggest you also support Avid DNxHD (free download for apple and windows).

Ultimately we will probably de-embed from SDI but this seems VERY expensive. As an interim solution we may de-embed from HDMI. Can you suggest any not too expensive hardware to d-embed either SDI or HDMI. I am assuming you Play sends down both.

Ben

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Chad Pearson
Re: Anyone had any experiencefor Axel You Play
on Sep 12, 2014 at 8:59:54 pm

For extracting audio from HDMI you can get a Kanexpro HDRGBRL. For SDI you can get a Blackmagic SDI to HDMI converter which comes with 1/4" TRS audio outputs


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