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Sascha Haber
Capturing from Blu Ray using Component
on Mar 22, 2012 at 3:22:21 pm

Hi there,

after grading long format , my clients started to hand me out Blu Ray disks.
So when show reel editing times come, I have to recapture some stuff from those disks.
So I got me a nice Samsung BD-D6500 , hooked it up via Component and get just a black screen into my Decklink Extreme.
I tried the player on the TV and it works fine.
Well, I know I cant capture HDMI due to some copyright protection which cripples the whole standard, but is there something like that in Component too ??
Or does the card detect the player and blocks it ?
I am kind of baffled..
But maybe I am just doing it wrong...happened in the past ;)
Any ideas ?

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Juan Salvo
Re: Capturing from Blu Ray using Component
on Mar 22, 2012 at 3:29:34 pm

Hi Sascha,

I've definately been able to capture BD output through analog component in the past. The tricky part is making sure your setting are correct. Some players will send a 30hz signal instead of 29.97hz or 23.98hz... Try a couple of settings to see if one clicks.

A better tip I have for you is to use AnyDVD to rip the discs, copy the m2ts file and then bring that into premiere natively. Make your selects and export a QT of your choosing. Works really well.

Hope that helps.



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Sascha Haber
Re: Capturing from Blu Ray using Component
on Mar 22, 2012 at 8:27:27 pm

Hey Juan, thanks for the reply.
So what I did is setting up Component in the BMD system pref.
Connecting the cables and getting nothing in Media Express.
If I switch the Y cable to composite out and set it to that in the system pane, it works.
So, just to experiment, I switch back to Component.
I still see something, colorfull, distorted...but something.
I even tried connecting the Y-R and Y-B cables to Y which gives me a strong colorful overlay.
But as soon as I take the Y cable and move it from composite to Y component it turns black.
I tried every setting in Media Express, even the 3D ones...
No luck..
Copying the file is no option either...its a standalone player, no data access.

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Juan Salvo
Re: Capturing from Blu Ray using Component
on Mar 22, 2012 at 9:29:32 pm

Did you chance the video setup in media express?



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Sascha Haber
Re: Capturing from Blu Ray using Component
on Mar 23, 2012 at 7:50:34 am

Hi Juan ,

I tried every setting in here :



Any other place to set up something ?

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Mike Squires
Re: Capturing from Blu Ray using Component
on Mar 23, 2012 at 4:36:40 pm

In the Blackmagic Control Panel, do you have Component selected as the input?


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Juan Salvo
Re: Capturing from Blu Ray using Component
on Mar 23, 2012 at 5:11:22 pm

Does the player have some format settings for its component out? Is there another player you could try?



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Sascha Haber
Re: Capturing from Blu Ray using Component
on Mar 23, 2012 at 5:28:59 pm

Yeah, i am trying that too.
The Player has 720p and 1080i as options for the Component output.
It seems the TV is autosensing the resolution and changes accordingly.
The Decklink doesnt.
I tried all input modes.

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Juan Salvo
Re: Capturing from Blu Ray using Component
on Mar 23, 2012 at 6:50:37 pm

you're not in rgb mode are you?



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Sascha Haber
Re: Capturing from Blu Ray using Component
on Mar 23, 2012 at 7:15:21 pm

Nope YUV 10..

Ok...its really funny actually.
I noticed the BD player changes it format almost every step on the way.
The Menu is PAL, trailers are NTSC, movies are HD and some 1080 that it doesnt understand.
I dont think I can get it to work, I tried German BDs now, amercian and self burned.
Its all different somehow..
I need a self switching devince, like my TV.
Tomorrow I will try the Aja card...
Thanks for the support.

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Chris Young
Re: Capturing from Blu Ray using Component
on Mar 31, 2012 at 12:58:14 pm

Thanks for this thread Sascha. I am using a BlackMagic Intensity Extreme to test some Apps we are building for Samsung DVD players and without your tip on the video format changing between different states I would have been tearing my hair out.

It appears to be PAL for the root menu and then NTSC for 'Internet@Home' and the HTML apps you launch from there.

Crazy!

Cheers

Chris


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Andreas Wojtaschek
Re: Capturing from Blu Ray using Component
on Apr 3, 2012 at 9:16:00 am

Sascha,

as pointed out the easiest and best (for Quality) way is to get yourself an USB BD-ROM device (cheap) and use AnyDVD to rip the m2t stream off of your BD. You can use these files in allmost any NLE and you are using the NATIVE material. If you use the decklink card you would DA convert in the BD player and AD convert in the Decklink card. There is no need for that. It only adds noise and color artifacts.

BD Players do some funny things on their outputs. I heard that it is possible for commercial BDs to block these analog outputs. You can never be sure what is coming out of these jacks.


Regards

Andreas

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