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The tracking is excellent but I forgot what to do next. by Zeno Pierre on Sep 5, 2008 at 4:52:37 am

Replacing a label tutorial doesn't match my reality? by Jim Dodson on Sep 4, 2008 at 7:46:07 pm

Monet tutorial doesn't match reality by Jim Dodson on Aug 31, 2008 at 10:28:23 pm
- Re: Monet tutorial doesn't match reality by Billy Woody (BillyW) on Sep 1, 2008 at 7:18:37 am
  - Re: Monet tutorial doesn't match reality by Jim Dodson on Sep 2, 2008 at 11:45:47 pm

Motion Tracking Demo Reel by Kevin Snyder on Aug 26, 2008 at 5:34:34 am
- Re: Motion Tracking Demo Reel by Ross Shain on Aug 26, 2008 at 1:18:15 pm
  - Re: Motion Tracking Demo Reel by Kevin Snyder on Aug 27, 2008 at 6:42:09 am

Background Foreground by Zeno Pierre on Aug 23, 2008 at 9:45:26 pm
- Re: Background Foreground by Ross Shain on Aug 25, 2008 at 12:53:52 am
  - Re: Background Foreground by Zeno Pierre on Aug 28, 2008 at 1:16:55 am

Any chance the Freelancer discount will re-appear? by Scott Steyns on Aug 22, 2008 at 3:56:53 am
- Re: Any chance the Freelancer discount will re-appear? by Ross Shain on Aug 22, 2008 at 2:41:23 pm
  - Re: Any chance the Freelancer discount will re-appear? by Billy Woody (BillyW) on Aug 22, 2008 at 5:16:13 pm

Mocha Cache Problem by Jesse Orrico on Aug 15, 2008 at 6:03:56 pm
- Re: Mocha Cache Problem by Billy Woody (BillyW) on Aug 15, 2008 at 7:16:33 pm
  - Re: Mocha Cache Problem by Jesse Orrico on Aug 15, 2008 at 9:17:32 pm

Monet Tutor by denis moran on Aug 15, 2008 at 3:20:49 pm
- Re: Monet Tutor by Billy Woody (BillyW) on Aug 15, 2008 at 3:37:06 pm

Mocha 50% off standalone until Aug. 30th by Loretta Billingsley on Aug 15, 2008 at 3:51:52 am
- Re: Mocha 50% off standalone until Aug. 30th by Billy Woody (BillyW) on Aug 15, 2008 at 5:03:18 am

Mocha 50% off standalone until Aug. 30th by Loretta Billingsley on Aug 15, 2008 at 3:51:32 am

new mocha tutorial by Ross Shain on Aug 6, 2008 at 3:02:49 pm
- Re: new mocha tutorial by Zeno Pierre on Aug 10, 2008 at 5:31:37 pm

Tracjing Date From Mocha AE to AE Just Not Right by Donald Plachno on Aug 2, 2008 at 8:10:48 pm
- Re: Tracjing Date From Mocha AE to AE Just Not Right by Ross Shain on Aug 5, 2008 at 2:45:18 pm
  - Re: Tracjing Date From Mocha AE to AE Just Not Right by Donald Plachno on Aug 14, 2008 at 5:14:52 pm

image quality in Mocha comp window BAD! by Jimmy Brunger on Jul 15, 2008 at 5:24:44 pm
- Re: image quality in Mocha comp window BAD! by Ross Shain on Jul 16, 2008 at 1:57:35 pm
  - Re: image quality in Mocha comp window BAD! by Jimmy Brunger on Jul 17, 2008 at 8:36:37 am
    - Re: image quality in Mocha comp window BAD! by Guillaume Charron (gcharron) on Jul 18, 2008 at 2:01:31 pm
      - Re: image quality in Mocha comp window BAD! by Jimmy Brunger on Jul 28, 2008 at 11:57:18 am

Overlapping layers' edges show up in matte by James Docherty on Jul 9, 2008 at 3:03:59 am
- Re: Overlapping layers' edges show up in matte by Ross Shain on Jul 16, 2008 at 1:52:00 pm
  - Re: Overlapping layers' edges show up in matte by James Docherty on Jul 16, 2008 at 1:59:55 pm

Imagineer tutorial contest info by Ross Shain on Jul 8, 2008 at 2:43:32 pm

Roto Talking Heads by Mitch Nixon on Jul 2, 2008 at 5:47:22 am

Motor STILL Crashing by Mitch Nixon on Jul 2, 2008 at 5:41:20 am
- Re: Motor STILL Crashing by Ross Shain on Jul 7, 2008 at 3:40:36 pm

matte by Ganis Satria on Jul 1, 2008 at 2:30:41 am
- Re: matte by Ross Shain on Jul 1, 2008 at 6:41:11 pm

problem with motor...keep showing failed by Ganis Satria on Jun 30, 2008 at 2:10:11 pm
- Re: problem with motor...keep showing failed by Ross Shain on Jul 1, 2008 at 6:36:14 pm

new tutorial available by Ross Shain on Jun 23, 2008 at 5:29:32 pm
- Re: new tutorial available by Jason Armstrong on Jun 23, 2008 at 7:15:46 pm
  - Re: new tutorial available by Ross Shain on Jun 24, 2008 at 1:02:22 am

Using Mocha Tracking Instead of AE? by Jason Armstrong on Jun 22, 2008 at 5:03:32 pm
- Re: Using Mocha Tracking Instead of AE? by Kevin Snyder on Jun 23, 2008 at 12:41:14 am
  - Re: Using Mocha Tracking Instead of AE? by Jason Armstrong on Jun 23, 2008 at 1:56:17 am
    - Re: Using Mocha Tracking Instead of AE? by Kevin Snyder on Jun 23, 2008 at 4:18:12 am
      - Re: Using Mocha Tracking Instead of AE? by Jason Armstrong on Jun 23, 2008 at 4:34:56 pm
        Re: Using Mocha Tracking Instead of AE? by Kevin Snyder on Jun 23, 2008 at 7:34:21 pm
        Re: Using Mocha Tracking Instead of AE? by Jason Armstrong on Jun 23, 2008 at 8:02:00 pm

Adjust track in Mocha AE by Jonathan FitzSimons on Jun 18, 2008 at 4:06:00 pm
- Re: Adjust track in Mocha AE by Ross Shain on Jun 18, 2008 at 5:29:42 pm
  - Re: Adjust track in Mocha AE by Jonathan FitzSimons on Jun 18, 2008 at 7:26:58 pm

Rotor with motor by Thomas Honeyman on Jun 12, 2008 at 4:48:48 pm
- Re: Rotor with motor by Mitch Nixon on Jun 12, 2008 at 10:02:11 pm
  - Re: Rotor with motor by Thomas Honeyman on Jun 13, 2008 at 8:54:39 am

Mocha as image stabilizer? by Navarro Parker (Navstar) on Jun 11, 2008 at 3:01:59 pm
- Re: Mocha as image stabilizer? by Joe Moya (Joe_Mo) on Jun 12, 2008 at 2:52:42 am
  - Re: Mocha as image stabilizer? by Ross Shain on Jun 18, 2008 at 5:34:59 pm
    - Re: Mocha as image stabilizer? by Joe Moya (Joe_Mo) on Jun 18, 2008 at 9:19:56 pm

Motor Crashing by Mitch Nixon on Jun 10, 2008 at 6:05:40 am
- Re: Motor Crashing by Billy Woody (BillyW) on Jun 10, 2008 at 8:52:17 am
  - Re: Motor Crashing by Mitch Nixon on Jun 11, 2008 at 5:45:54 am

Mocha copy-paste into After Effects CS3 by Dan Robertson on Jun 9, 2008 at 3:29:39 am
- Re: Mocha copy-paste into After Effects CS3 by Billy Woody (BillyW) on Jun 9, 2008 at 4:38:05 am
  - Re: Mocha copy-paste into After Effects CS3 by Dan Robertson on Jun 9, 2008 at 5:02:06 am
    - Re: Mocha copy-paste into After Effects CS3 by Billy Woody (BillyW) on Jun 9, 2008 at 5:04:28 am
      - Re: Mocha copy-paste into After Effects CS3 by Dan Robertson on Jun 9, 2008 at 5:07:55 am
        Re: Mocha copy-paste into After Effects CS3 by Billy Woody (BillyW) on Jun 9, 2008 at 5:11:24 am
        Re: Mocha copy-paste into After Effects CS3 by Ross Shain on Jun 9, 2008 at 12:17:57 pm
        Re: Mocha copy-paste into After Effects CS3 by Dan Robertson on Jun 9, 2008 at 1:35:29 pm

Missing Mocha 1.2 Mac manual by Navarro Parker (Navstar) on Jun 1, 2008 at 10:26:13 pm
- Re: Missing Mocha 1.2 Mac manual by Ross Shain on Jun 2, 2008 at 2:03:52 pm
  - Re: Missing Mocha 1.2 Mac manual by Navarro Parker (Navstar) on Jun 2, 2008 at 6:49:59 pm

Fiber Choice Tut. Doom by gregory paul beckner on May 29, 2008 at 4:02:14 pm

apple prores and tiff files by Guillaume Charron (gcharron) on May 25, 2008 at 5:14:44 pm
- Re: apple prores and tiff files by Ross Shain on May 30, 2008 at 6:23:15 pm

adjust track in monet by Guillaume Charron (gcharron) on May 22, 2008 at 9:56:48 pm

new mocha-AE tutorial by Ross Shain on May 16, 2008 at 5:02:57 pm

Switch on multiprocessing in Mocha? by Jimmy Brunger on May 16, 2008 at 9:01:16 am
- Re: Switch on multiprocessing in Mocha? by Ross Shain on May 16, 2008 at 12:58:08 pm

Mocha Motion blur in AE solved? by Jimmy Brunger on May 9, 2008 at 11:34:17 am
- Re: Mocha Motion blur in AE solved? by Ross Shain on May 13, 2008 at 5:51:05 pm
  - Re: Mocha Motion blur in AE solved? by Jimmy Brunger on May 16, 2008 at 8:58:33 am

Mokey on Xsan by Jason Hearne on May 7, 2008 at 10:39:51 pm
- Re: Mokey on Xsan by Jason Hearne on May 13, 2008 at 5:23:24 pm
- Re: Mokey on Xsan by Ross Shain on May 13, 2008 at 5:52:32 pm
  - Re: Mokey on Xsan by Jason Hearne on May 14, 2008 at 12:05:16 am
- Re: Mokey on Xsan by Ross Shain on May 14, 2008 at 1:37:40 pm
  - Re: Mokey on Xsan by Jason Hearne on May 20, 2008 at 12:28:44 am

Mocha AE Bug by Kevin Snyder on May 6, 2008 at 6:12:59 pm
- Re: Mocha AE Bug by Kevin Snyder on May 6, 2008 at 6:46:45 pm

shuting down!!! by Ken Karn on May 2, 2008 at 5:30:28 pm
- Re: shuting down!!! by Billy Woody (BillyW) on May 2, 2008 at 5:47:44 pm
  - Re: shuting down!!! by Ken Karn on May 2, 2008 at 6:49:23 pm

mogul/review demo video is online by Ross Shain on Apr 28, 2008 at 2:39:15 pm

Monet zoom/pan navigation by Dominik Wojtarowicz on Apr 25, 2008 at 5:35:50 am
- Re: Monet zoom/pan navigation by Billy Woody (BillyW) on Apr 25, 2008 at 6:22:00 am

Mocha AE 1.2.0 Windows Error by Kevin Snyder on Apr 23, 2008 at 12:19:52 am
- Re: Mocha AE 1.2.0 Windows Error by Billy Woody (BillyW) on Apr 23, 2008 at 2:47:05 am
  - Re: Mocha AE 1.2.0 Windows Error by Kevin Snyder on Apr 23, 2008 at 2:51:20 am
    - Re: Mocha AE 1.2.0 Windows Error by Billy Woody (BillyW) on Apr 23, 2008 at 2:53:15 am
      - Re: Mocha AE 1.2.0 Windows Error by Kevin Snyder on Apr 23, 2008 at 4:07:23 am
        Re: Mocha AE 1.2.0 Windows Error by Kevin Snyder on Apr 23, 2008 at 4:15:48 am
        Re: Mocha AE 1.2.0 Windows Error by Kevin Snyder on Apr 24, 2008 at 3:08:12 pm
        Re: Mocha AE 1.2.0 Windows Error by Billy Woody (BillyW) on Apr 24, 2008 at 4:08:53 pm

Mocha V 1.2.0 not launching on Mac OS 10.4.11 by Gene Hoffman on Apr 22, 2008 at 4:16:44 am
- Re: Mocha V 1.2.0 not launching on Mac OS 10.4.11 by Gnu Gnushka (Gnu) on Apr 22, 2008 at 6:40:07 am
  - Re: Mocha V 1.2.0 not launching on Mac OS 10.4.11 by Jimmy Brunger on Apr 22, 2008 at 2:14:13 pm
    - Re: Mocha V 1.2.0 not launching on Mac OS 10.4.11 by Ross Shain on Apr 22, 2008 at 2:18:38 pm
- Re: Mocha V 1.2.0 not launching on Mac OS 10.4.11 by Billy Woody (BillyW) on Apr 22, 2008 at 4:43:15 pm
  - Re: Mocha V 1.2.0 not launching on Mac OS 10.4.11 by Billy Woody (BillyW) on Apr 22, 2008 at 6:13:53 pm
    - Re: Mocha V 1.2.0 not launching on Mac OS 10.4.11 by Gene Hoffman on Apr 22, 2008 at 6:59:51 pm
      - Re: Mocha V 1.2.0 not launching on Mac OS 10.4.11 by Gnu Gnushka (Gnu) on Apr 23, 2008 at 1:19:22 am
        Re: Mocha V 1.2.0 not launching on Mac OS 10.4.11 by Billy Woody (BillyW) on Apr 23, 2008 at 2:49:59 am

Mokey patch color sample causing crash by Gregory Quinn on Apr 19, 2008 at 7:54:25 pm
- Re: Mokey patch color sample causing crash by Mark Curry (chimpybits) on Apr 21, 2008 at 11:57:03 pm
  - Re: Mokey patch color sample causing crash by Gregory Quinn on Apr 22, 2008 at 12:09:33 am
    - Re: Mokey patch color sample causing crash by Mark Curry (chimpybits) on Apr 22, 2008 at 12:20:06 am

the future of IS's Motor by brian buschmann on Apr 19, 2008 at 7:24:43 am
- Re: the future of IS's Motor by Billy Woody (BillyW) on Apr 19, 2008 at 1:38:11 pm

error messaage by Gnu Gnushka (Gnu) on Apr 17, 2008 at 4:05:37 am

Help with Mokey and tracking by moody glasgow on Apr 16, 2008 at 6:37:40 pm
- Re: Help with Mokey and tracking by Billy Woody (BillyW) on Apr 16, 2008 at 6:44:37 pm
- Re: Help with Mokey and tracking by Billy Woody (BillyW) on Apr 16, 2008 at 6:50:51 pm
  - Re: Help with Mokey and tracking by moody glasgow on Apr 16, 2008 at 7:52:42 pm
    - Re: Help with Mokey and tracking by Billy Woody (BillyW) on Apr 16, 2008 at 11:23:46 pm

Relink to a longer clip in Mocha by Sondra Selhorn on Apr 15, 2008 at 10:55:19 pm
- Re: Relink to a longer clip in Mocha by Alex Fahl on Apr 28, 2008 at 2:09:30 pm
  - Re: Relink to a longer clip in Mocha by billy Woody (BillyW) on Apr 28, 2008 at 2:57:06 pm
    - Re: Relink to a longer clip in Mocha by Sondra Selhorn on Apr 28, 2008 at 8:32:55 pm
      - Re: Relink to a longer clip in Mocha by billy Woody (BillyW) on Apr 28, 2008 at 9:22:29 pm
        Re: Relink to a longer clip in Mocha by Sondra Selhorn on Apr 29, 2008 at 4:36:04 pm

Mocha 1.0.1 stable on OS X Tiger? by jimmy brunger on Apr 13, 2008 at 2:26:16 pm
- HELLO?? by jimmy brunger on Apr 20, 2008 at 9:17:47 am
  - Re: HELLO?? by Billy Woody (BillyW) on Apr 20, 2008 at 6:23:26 pm
    - Re: HELLO?? by Jimmy Brunger on Apr 21, 2008 at 8:57:13 am
      - OH DEAR... by Jimmy Brunger on Apr 21, 2008 at 9:17:24 am
        Re: OH DEAR... by Craig Shields on Apr 22, 2008 at 2:58:21 am
        Re: OH DEAR... by Jimmy Brunger on Apr 22, 2008 at 10:04:46 am

Mocha - Perfect track, Wandering Results by Chris Heuer (Jonas Grumby) on Apr 10, 2008 at 1:31:09 pm
- Re: Mocha - Perfect track, Wandering Results by Ross Shain on Apr 10, 2008 at 2:52:51 pm
  - Re: Mocha - Perfect track, Wandering Results by Chris Heuer (Jonas Grumby) on Apr 10, 2008 at 3:21:28 pm
    - Re: Mocha - Perfect track, Wandering Results by Chris Heuer (Jonas Grumby) on Apr 11, 2008 at 1:01:29 pm

Extrapolate Track with Mocha by Dave Smith on Apr 4, 2008 at 5:45:47 pm
- Re: Extrapolate Track with Mocha by Ross Shain on Apr 7, 2008 at 4:08:50 pm

Imagineer customer event at NAB by Ross Shain on Apr 4, 2008 at 4:50:34 pm

ATA Airlines; What If? by Zeno Pierre on Apr 3, 2008 at 6:02:07 pm
- Re: ATA Airlines; What If? by Mads Nybo Jørgensen (Mads Nybo Jorgensen) on Apr 3, 2008 at 6:15:04 pm

Mokey's Match (w/in Patch) Not Working by Mark Curry (chimpybits) on Apr 1, 2008 at 4:59:09 pm
- Re: Mokey's Match (w/in Patch) Not Working by Mark Curry (chimpybits) on Apr 9, 2008 at 7:50:35 pm

Mokey Markers Tutorial by Ken Karn on Apr 1, 2008 at 2:12:04 pm
- Re: Mokey Markers Tutorial by Ken Karn on Apr 1, 2008 at 4:38:48 pm

Motor opens clips completely screwed by Alex Fahl on Mar 30, 2008 at 8:50:02 am
- Re: Motor opens clips completely screwed by Alex Fahl on Apr 4, 2008 at 11:04:13 am

cant import tracking data to AE7 ( mocha V1) by Enrique Borja on Mar 29, 2008 at 7:50:05 pm
- Re: cant import tracking data to AE7 ( mocha V1) by Billy Woody (BillyW) on Mar 29, 2008 at 9:30:15 pm
  - Re: cant import tracking data to AE7 ( mocha V1) by Enrique Borja on Mar 30, 2008 at 3:00:52 pm
- Re: cant import tracking data to AE7 ( mocha V1) by Zeno Pierre on Mar 31, 2008 at 6:15:04 pm
  - Re: cant import tracking data to AE7 ( mocha V1) by Enrique Borja on Apr 3, 2008 at 6:26:28 pm

Deleting layers? by James Culbertson on Mar 28, 2008 at 7:21:28 pm
- Re: Deleting layers? by James Culbertson on Apr 2, 2008 at 4:56:35 am

Removal question by James Culbertson on Mar 28, 2008 at 7:19:12 pm

Expired License by Zeno Pierre on Mar 27, 2008 at 3:54:50 pm
- Re: Expired License by Zeno Pierre on Mar 28, 2008 at 5:07:24 am
  - Re: Expired License by Billy Woody (BillyW) on Mar 28, 2008 at 9:53:04 am

Training for Imagineer Products? by Topher Welsh (TopherWelsh) on Mar 26, 2008 at 10:23:33 pm
- Re: Training for Imagineer Products? by Guillaume Charron (gcharron) on Mar 27, 2008 at 2:45:47 am

End tracking and patching questions by Mark Curry (chimpybits) on Mar 26, 2008 at 8:38:59 pm
- Re: End tracking and patching questions by Mark Curry (chimpybits) on Mar 29, 2008 at 4:58:24 pm
- Re: End tracking and patching questions by Mark Curry (chimpybits) on Mar 29, 2008 at 10:54:17 pm
- Re: End tracking and patching questions by Mark Curry (chimpybits) on Apr 1, 2008 at 4:57:48 pm

Looking for Imagineer help at NAB by Ross Shain on Mar 26, 2008 at 12:44:08 am

Trial version of motor by Bob Fiori on Mar 23, 2008 at 3:01:03 pm
- Re: Trial version of motor by Billy Woody (BillyW) on Mar 23, 2008 at 3:27:46 pm
- Re: Trial version of motor by Bob Fiori on Mar 23, 2008 at 9:34:53 pm

Version of Primatte in Mokey? by Gregory Quinn on Mar 21, 2008 at 6:52:10 am
- Re: Version of Primatte in Mokey? by Ross Shain on Mar 25, 2008 at 9:06:33 pm

NAB Discounts by denis moran on Mar 20, 2008 at 11:29:31 pm
- Re: NAB Discounts by Billy Woody (BillyW) on Mar 21, 2008 at 1:41:18 am
- Re: NAB Discounts by Ross Shain on Mar 21, 2008 at 1:42:02 am

Support please !! by Guillaume Charron (gcharron) on Mar 20, 2008 at 4:13:59 pm
- Re: Support please !! by Mads Nybo Jørgensen (Mads Nybo Jorgensen) on Mar 20, 2008 at 5:28:33 pm
  - Re: Support please !! by Guillaume Charron (gcharron) on Mar 20, 2008 at 5:38:24 pm
- Re: Support please !! by Billy Woody (BillyW) on Mar 20, 2008 at 5:33:54 pm
- Re: Support please !! by Billy Woody (BillyW) on Mar 20, 2008 at 5:36:30 pm
  - Re: Support please !! by Guillaume Charron (gcharron) on Mar 20, 2008 at 5:53:41 pm
    - Re: Support please !! by Billy Woody (BillyW) on Mar 20, 2008 at 6:19:41 pm
      - Re: Support please !! by Guillaume Charron (gcharron) on Mar 20, 2008 at 7:18:33 pm
        Re: Support please !! by Guillaume Charron (gcharron) on Mar 25, 2008 at 2:35:11 pm

Mocha shape export to Shake causing Shake crash - workaround? by Gregory quinn on Mar 19, 2008 at 10:17:01 am
- Re: Mocha shape export to Shake causing Shake crash - workaround? by Billy Woody (BillyW) on Mar 19, 2008 at 11:47:38 am
  - Re: Mocha shape export to Shake causing Shake crash - workaround? by Gregory Quinn on Mar 20, 2008 at 3:57:34 am
    - Re: Mocha shape export to Shake causing Shake crash - workaround? by Andrew Shanks on Mar 27, 2008 at 10:05:19 pm
      - Re: Mocha shape export to Shake causing Shake crash - workaround? by Gregory Quinn on Mar 27, 2008 at 10:08:57 pm
        Re: Mocha shape export to Shake causing Shake crash - workaround? by Todd Jaspers on Jun 24, 2008 at 6:33:54 pm

importing footage problem by Guillaume Charron (gcharron) on Mar 18, 2008 at 11:28:18 pm
- Re: importing footage problem by Billy Woody (BillyW) on Mar 18, 2008 at 11:36:38 pm
  - Re: importing footage problem by Guillaume Charron (gcharron) on Mar 19, 2008 at 12:07:56 pm
    - Re: importing footage problem by Billy Woody (BillyW) on Mar 19, 2008 at 12:25:25 pm
      - Re: importing footage problem by Guillaume Charron (gcharron) on Mar 19, 2008 at 1:28:44 pm

upgrade pricing? by James Culbertson on Mar 18, 2008 at 3:44:42 pm
- Re: upgrade pricing? by Ross Shain on Mar 18, 2008 at 4:42:56 pm
- Re: upgrade pricing? by Billy Woody (BillyW) on Mar 18, 2008 at 4:59:32 pm
  - Re: upgrade pricing? by James Culbertson on Mar 18, 2008 at 8:53:12 pm

NUKE support by arnljot Bringedal (Becker) on Mar 15, 2008 at 9:32:01 pm
- Re: NUKE support by Billy Woody (BillyW) on Mar 15, 2008 at 9:36:18 pm
  - Re: NUKE support by arnljot Bringedal (Becker) on Mar 16, 2008 at 7:47:42 am
    - Re: NUKE support by Billy Woody (BillyW) on Mar 17, 2008 at 4:43:54 pm
      - Re: NUKE support by Arnljot Bringedal (Becker) on Mar 18, 2008 at 3:01:38 pm
        Re: NUKE support by Billy Woody (BillyW) on Mar 18, 2008 at 3:35:56 pm
        Re: NUKE support by Arnljot Bringedal (Becker) on Mar 18, 2008 at 5:26:07 pm
        Re: NUKE support by Billy Woody (BillyW) on Mar 18, 2008 at 5:32:12 pm

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