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Nigel ThompsonYou want HDMI, Here have this
by on Apr 20, 2009 at 1:54:34 pm

http://www.aja.com/products/kona/kona-lhi.php

Good goin guys.

1 prayer answered, and the Ki Pro seems a must buy for our RED workflow, wow there goes my savings once again LOL

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Nigel ThompsonRe: You want HDMI, Here have this
by on Apr 20, 2009 at 1:59:57 pm

KI Pro, WOW, Did some one say Dirt cheap Dailies

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Aaron NeitzRe: You want HDMI, Here have this
by on Apr 20, 2009 at 3:21:24 pm

I'm really glad that AJA is so ProRes stalwart. It's such a great little codec, and with AJA involved hopefully Apple doesn't get too many chances to muck it up :)

And so much for our litle RED->ProRes dailies conversion jobs we had going....



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Russell LassonNew AJA Ki Pro!
by on Apr 20, 2009 at 3:23:52 pm

Yes! If you can nail a workflow with the Ki Pro and record your offline edit files to ProRes in the field, then conform back to the R3D files, that's going to save a ton of rendering!

-Russ

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Aaron NeitzRe: New AJA Ki Pro!
by on Apr 20, 2009 at 3:50:03 pm

It looks though like it only records in regular ProRes, not HQ?



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Russell LassonRe: New AJA Ki Pro!
by on Apr 20, 2009 at 4:12:35 pm

It records to either ProRes or ProRes HQ.

-Russ

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Jeremy GarchowRe: New AJA Ki Pro!
by on Apr 20, 2009 at 8:25:07 pm

It does ProRes HQ to the supplied drive cartridge, SQ to the Express34 slot for now. SSD storage will get faster. It's a cool cool product. Controlled by....wait for it......your iPhone, or any browser capable device.


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Joe MurrayRe: New AJA Ki Pro!
by on Apr 20, 2009 at 4:02:20 pm

So are most of you converting Red footage to ProRes before editing? We're doing our first major project with Red right now and are just using the half-res proxies to edit and will then conform in FCP and Color. Other than seeing the footage higher quality by converting to ProRes, are there other advantages to that workflow?




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Kevin WildRe: New AJA Ki Pro!
by on Apr 20, 2009 at 6:33:42 pm

Early on, we ran into some bugs with the FCP-Color workflow, so we switched back to transcoding everything to HD before editing.

Everything we shoot goes through RED Alert to create the RSX file with our one-light parameters. Then the files go into ClipFinder to get rendered over to HD.

I wish the speeds were a little quicker, but overall, this works really well and no worries about XML's or EDL's or anything.

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Stuart SimpsonRe: You want HDMI, Here have this
by on Apr 21, 2009 at 9:53:04 am

So is the LHi a straight-up replacement for the LH? Is the LH now end-of-life?

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Nigel ThompsonRe: You want HDMI, Here have this
by on Apr 21, 2009 at 10:35:08 am

certainly seems so:

On Aja's site there is a little caption saying for a limited time get some cash off the LHe, and of course the LHe is missing from the site now so i would say yes.

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Peter CorbettRe: You want HDMI, Here have this
by on Apr 22, 2009 at 7:42:11 am

I've asked on a couple of other forums about handheld use, without response. What happens if you take your Varicam or Red off the sticks and want to do some shoulder camera work. Are we back to BVU/umbilical days? Does anyone else see this as a potential issue? The product is fantastic, well-designed and engineered. But who shoots exclusively on a tripod?

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AJA Sales DepartmentRe: You want HDMI, Here have this
by on Apr 22, 2009 at 12:58:26 pm

Peter... I think the "I didn't get a response" is exaggerated by the comparative time you might be posting your questions since you are on Australian time mate... we are doing our very best to answer questions in a timely fashion.

From the CML (Cinematograpy Mailing List) reply to your question posted by the AJA Product Manager regarding handheld work with the unit:

Peter C. - Handheld configuration is totally possible... in fact I was really excited to show it at NAB, but was over-ruled by my superiors because we are trying to communicate so much about the product here at NAB and I only had time to get a few low quality shots of myself with the unit shoulder mounted. I have images taken by a co-worker of me handholding the unit on my iPhone if anyone stops by the booth at NAB and can find me! Basically, using our Exoskeleton for the product, you invert the rod endplates, so that instead of mounting rod accessories to the unit as you do now, you mount Ki Pro to an existing set of rods and a baseplate/shoulder mount to place the unit above the bottom of the camera. In the end this very elegant actually and can somewhat transform small cameras with the "hold me at arms length and get tired easy because the camera is not properly on my shoulder design" to a viable shoulder design. In my initial testing, I use a Zacuto universal baseplate, simple shoulder pad and a follow focus as a grip for my left side (I'd want that piece anyhow!) to achieve what I'm describing. But a picture is worth a thousand words, so wait for the professional photos - not an iPhone image of me- to see how nice this actually can be... particularly with your A.C. using the iPhone or iPod Touch to arm your recording - even set your clip name - while you keep the camera on your shoulder... as a camera operator/1st A.C./D.P. I am pretty excited to go shoot with beta units handheld after NAB is over!

Hopefully this information is useful... we will do our best to answer questions on all of the forums, but timely answers may be difficult until the conclusion of NAB.

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walter biscardiRe: You want HDMI, Here have this
by on Apr 22, 2009 at 12:57:47 pm

Very cool, I had no idea you could configure the product like this. Can't wait to learn more about it after the show concludes.

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Peter CorbettRe: You want HDMI, Here have this
by on Apr 22, 2009 at 1:37:10 pm

[AJA Sales Department] "Peter... I think the "I didn't get a response" is exaggerated by the comparative time you might be posting your questions since you are on Australian time mate... we are doing our very best to answer questions in a timely fashion.

From the CML (Cinematograpy Mailing List) reply to your question posted by the AJA Product Manager regarding handheld work with the unit:"


Hi there. The extra info is really useful. I wish I could see it at NAB myself as it is looks a fantastic product. And yes I do lose track of the time zones!

You probably misunderstood me. I meant "no response" from all the camera operators who were posting on forums, not AJA. Besides my post, there are many other unrelated threads all over the web raving about the Ki but not one person mentions shooting off the shoulder with the it.

I don't want to sound pedantic but my original question directly concerned 2/3" cameras like Varicam and XDCAM HD and how the Ki Pro could operate with it hand held. The info in the above post refers to small cameras (I'm assuming cams like the HVX200 and ERX1/3). I still can't see how the procedure detailed above would work with our SDX900 which is similar to the camera shown in the AJA brochure. The camera would sit way too high on the shoulder for operating.




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Stuart SimpsonRe: You want HDMI, Here have this
by on Apr 22, 2009 at 1:42:43 pm

I wonder what it would feel like if you bunged a v-lock adapter on it and hung it off the battery pack... Anybody know how heavy it is? The brochure doesn't seem to say...

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Nigel ThompsonRe: You want HDMI, Here have this
by on Apr 22, 2009 at 2:59:10 pm

Hey Guys:

My solution to the handheld issue is get a wireless Hd Transmitter and slap it onto the back of the camera and problemsolved.

IDX has a tx/Reciever combo selling for 5K,

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=workaround.jsp&A=details&...

http://www.idxtek.com/products/trans_sys.html

and the KiPro is 4K so that is 9K. If you do dailies on a regular basis, i think 9K is no money to spend.

That's my solution

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Peter CorbettRe: You want HDMI, Here have this
by on Apr 22, 2009 at 9:45:29 pm

[Nigel Thompson] "Hey Guys:

My solution to the handheld issue is get a wireless Hd Transmitter and slap it onto the back of the camera and problemsolved.

IDX has a tx/Reciever combo selling for 5K,"


I still think that is a lot of dough Nigel for just getting a feed from the camera. Plus there are confidence issues about the integrity of the recording via wireless, no mater how good the IDX is.

Peter

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Peter CorbettRe: You want HDMI, Here have this (a solution?)
by on Apr 22, 2009 at 9:51:44 pm

I feel the best handheld option would be if the Ki-Pro was in a small sound mixer style case by Portabrace or KATA, and a snake containing SDI Co-ax and a control cable connecting the Ki to the large format camera.

This could be slung over the shoulder of the camera person. It's not quite like the old BVU days, because of the smaller size and weight of the Ki Pro.

I'd also have a quick release connector in the cable. If AJA could put in a audible warning system (like a loud beeping sound) if the video signal dropped out, you would get confidence recording.

Peter Corbett
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