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Alex SalernoAurora Tech....
by on Aug 9, 2005 at 5:17:08 pm

Will you guys/gals be releasing any further revisions of the Igniter driver for 10.3.9/10.4.x and FCP5?


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loloRe: Aurora Tech....
by on Aug 9, 2005 at 7:41:20 pm

I pray for that.... please aurora tech, please again a last update! :-)


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Aurora SupportRe: Aurora Tech....
by on Aug 9, 2005 at 7:46:33 pm

We will do our best to continue to support IgniterX. There are some minor changes which are becoming a 6.4.4 driver. We don't yet have a release date for this.

- Support


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Alex SalernoRe: Aurora Tech....
by on Aug 9, 2005 at 8:16:53 pm

Thank you for the response.


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loloRe: Aurora Tech....
by on Aug 9, 2005 at 9:04:01 pm

thank you very much.


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Aurora SupportRe: Aurora Tech....
by on Aug 9, 2005 at 9:23:53 pm

Are you looking for something specific?


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Alex SalernoRe: Aurora Tech....
by on Aug 10, 2005 at 12:22:58 am

Yes. Thank you for asking.

My main problem with 10.3.9/FCP5 is (lack of) use of audio input controls--mainly gain.

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loloRe: Aurora Tech....
by on Aug 10, 2005 at 7:57:56 am

yes, audio control gain in FCP5 is broken, it will be welcome to be back... I'd like too audio capture inside SoundtrackPro and Quicktime video output preview which is broken in Ignition control panel (with aurora codec or better I dream ... an another codec, like interceptor! hehe, I know its an IgniterX:) ).

thx


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David BattistellaRe: Aurora Tech....
by on Aug 10, 2005 at 9:53:51 pm


What ever happens I would not be surprised if this is the last version o fhte Mac OS that the Igniter will actually work with. This hardware has travelled a million miles in computer years.

I loved it best at 3.0.2 in OS9. That was true 24 frame editing with FCP on a Mac.

David

PS: Don't you guys use mixers to control the level of audio going into your macines?


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David BattistellaRe: Aurora Tech....
by on Aug 10, 2005 at 9:57:28 pm

Here is a very high quality, extremely affordable mixer


http://www.behringer.com/UB1204/index.cfm?lang=ENG


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loloRe: Aurora Tech....
by on Aug 11, 2005 at 7:41:23 am

Why this function will be removed? a mixer take so much space, just need to control it in FCP, is it so big request?


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David BattistellaRe: Aurora Tech....
by on Aug 11, 2005 at 1:26:23 pm



Lolo,

I never said the function would be removed. What seems very simple to you and I is actually a very complex task. The Aurora driver probably uses thousands of lines of computer code, each one doing a specific function and havinf to interact with the software and the rest of the instructions in the driver.

It's not as simple as, you took it out, put it back. I am sure it can mean weeks of work to the people at Aurora. The igniter is a Very old product. It is the oldest capture board built for MAC computers. It was never designed for OSX and the Aurora folks reverse engineered the software to make the Hardware work on an interim basis.

They are placed in a very tough position. They support their customers well but at some point they have to develop new drivers, cards, products and technology. They are a small company with limited resources. So requests like this go into a pile and they do their best to get at them.

I will not be surprised if we see the last driver soon. I can't understand how they have made that hardware work so well for this long, especially with minimum amounts of help from Apple.

David



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loloRe: Aurora Tech....
by on Aug 12, 2005 at 9:27:36 am

yes I know they do great work. Implement a feature or re-write another its big time consuming. Iam beta tester in another area and I know there is sometimes a lots developement which is not always visibile to users and a little feature or request would like re-write a tons of code. And time is killer, and users pression is hard but Maybe that Aurora could make pay update to users who have old card? like with software? so the kind card could be continued with the hardware limit.

The audio level in FCP imho is a hot request because all low and high end card have it. If its impossible to done, ok, I will boot on 10.3.9 for capture, I have no money for now to buy a mixer and it take so much space :P


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Aurora SupportRe: Aurora Tech....
by on Aug 12, 2005 at 3:53:21 pm

We are working on getting the audio gain control to work in FCP 5. Unfortunately this is required since Apple changed this in FCP5. If you use the Igniter 6.4.3 in any other application (System Sound Pane, Audio Midi, MediaGrabX, all versions of FCP before 5) the input gain control is implemented correctly, and works as expected. It is currently designed to meet core audio specs. We do not know why Apple chose to change it's behaviour in FCP 5, but they broke it in more ways then just this. In FCP5 and 5.0.2, the input gain control does not stay where you put it making it impossible to batch capture (and a pain to capture now since you have to keep resetting it), so even when we change our code to implement the control the way they want it now, it will take a further update from Apple to fix this second issue :-(


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Alex SalernoRe: Aurora Tech....
by on Aug 15, 2005 at 4:57:17 pm

Doesn't this effect Pipe also?


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David BattistellaRe: Aurora Tech....
by on Aug 15, 2005 at 6:17:44 pm



The pipe is always set to unity gain. This means that the levels in and out can only be affected if there is a mixer in the mix :) so to speak. That is the way the Piep driver is designed.

Does your deck have any audio level output control?

David



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