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Output a HD 23.98 project to DV/NTSC Mini DV Tape ?
by chris rogers on Jul 3, 2008 at 11:39:51 pm

Howdy Folks,

I am working on a short film that has gotten into a festival which requires delivery on a MiniDV tape. I am currently working on the finished project in a 23.98 HD 1920x1080 Animation timeline with sycn'd audio.

What is the best way to get to 29.97 ND DV/NTSC MiniDV tape?

1) Should I Export an: Interlaced, Letterboxed, 4x3, 29.97 ND, Self Contained Quicktime with audio and then import and drop that into a 29.97 ND, 720x486 DV/NTSC Timeline and record that to tape?

2) Or should the 2:3 pulldown be added automatically by FCP as I watch it record to tape from the 23.98 timeline? (The audio should still be in sync right?)

I do not have a AJA video card, just a newer G5 and I am recording to a mini DV camera.

Thanks and have a great 4th of July!
Chris

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Re: Output a HD 23.98 project to DV/NTSC Mini DV Tape ?
by Shane Ross on Jul 4, 2008 at 12:37:32 am

[chris rogers] "
What is the best way to get to 29.97 ND DV/NTSC MiniDV tape?"


Via a capture card, like AJA or Decklink. But you said you didn't have that so you can't do this:

[chris rogers] "2) Or should the 2:3 pulldown be added automatically by FCP as I watch it record to tape from the 23.98 timeline? (The audio should still be in sync right?)"

This can only be done with a capture card. Your HD footage will not play out via firewire to a DV deck...only DV will.

Export a self contained file...DO NOT CONVERT IT YET...jsut export it. Then take that into Compressor and let Compressor compress to the DV codec...it is a preset in the advanced conversion section. Reimport that and see how that looks.




Shane



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Re: Output a HD 23.98 project to DV/NTSC Mini DV Tape ?
by chris rogers on Jul 4, 2008 at 12:56:57 am

Shane,

Thanks so much, I though I was missing a step. Just curious.. Why is it not a good idea to let FCP do the QT conversion from 23.98 to 29.97nd?

Thanks!
Chris

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Re: Output a HD 23.98 project to DV/NTSC Mini DV Tape ?
by Shane Ross on Jul 4, 2008 at 1:06:22 am

FCP doesn't add the proper 2:3:3:2 or 2:3:2:3 pulldown...FCP adds 2:2:2:4 pulldown...and you can't change this.



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Re: Output a HD 23.98 project to DV/NTSC Mini DV Tape ?
by chris rogers on Jul 4, 2008 at 1:22:51 am

Thank you. : )

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Re: Output a HD 23.98 project to DV/NTSC Mini DV Tape ?
by Jeffrey Di Lullo on Jul 4, 2008 at 3:31:22 pm

Shane,

I don't mean to be a wet blanket, but FCP 6.0.1 does output 2:3:2:3 via firewire to an NTSC dv device. I have not been able to get fcp to spit out advanced pull-down

You do this by

1)setting up a 23.98 sequence
2) check the RT pop up window to 2:3:2:3
3) check the System preference's playback tab. There is a drop down for pull down
4) Print to tape.

You can check this by make , 1 frame long, titles A, B, C, D repeating. when it prints to tape you will find that you will have a 2:3:2:3 pull down.

The fcp pdf manual covers this on page 1415 and elsewhere.

As for making a down conversion from HD to SD you really want to use a kona card. It does a MUCH better conversion than fcp does internally. You could also use Compressor to make the HD to SD down convert.

Good luck,

Jeffrey Di Lullo
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