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Is there a difference between 16x9 and 1.77:1 ?
by Gary Gowman on Jul 2, 2008 at 6:35:05 pm

I was asked to make two versions of a movie. One at 16x9 full frame and a 1.77 version. Is there a difference?

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Re: Is there a difference between 16x9 and 1.77:1 ?
by Jeremy Garchow on Jul 2, 2008 at 6:37:06 pm

That's the same aspect ratio.

16 divided by 9 is 1.77 (sometimes rounded to 1.78)

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Re: Is there a difference between 16x9 and 1.77:1 ?
by Gary Gowman on Jul 2, 2008 at 6:48:10 pm

That's what I thought. We were asked to make two versions (by a major film company). Must have been an intern filling in today. :-)

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Re: Is there a difference between 16x9 and 1.77:1 ?
by Jeremy Garchow on Jul 2, 2008 at 6:59:31 pm

What's the aspect of your source material?

The reason I ask is because you can crop your image (if it's bigger than 16x9) to 16x9 full frame. Then you can keep the aspect of your source material and letterbox it to 1.77:1

Jeremy

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Re: Is there a difference between 16x9 and 1.77:1 ?
by Gary Gowman on Jul 2, 2008 at 7:43:17 pm

Not sure. I was only asked by my boss if there was a difference. I said they are the same and he replied that we were asked to make two deliverables as 16x9 full frame and another as 1.77. He will get back to the person asking for the two versions. :-)

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Re: Is there a difference between 16x9 and 1.77:1 ?
by Jeremy Garchow on Jul 2, 2008 at 7:54:00 pm

Yeah, there's a difference but it wholly depends on your source material. If it's bigger than HD than this is where it will come in to play.

Jeremy

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Re: Is there a difference between 16x9 and 1.77:1 ?
by Gary Gowman on Jul 2, 2008 at 10:59:55 pm

Project was shot with Sony F900 to HDcamSR deck as 422. We captured as HD 422 and edited, CC and so on. Nothing here about SD and letterbox, anamorphic. Just a request to deliver 16x9 full frame and another 1.77 both on HDcam tapes. Mee thinx thay konfuzed.

Gary Gowman-Video Director
Louisiana Media Services
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Assimilate Scratch and FCS2/Kona3 Suites
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Re: Is there a difference between 16x9 and 1.77:1 ?
by Jeremy Garchow on Jul 2, 2008 at 11:27:33 pm

[Gary Gowman] "Mee thinx thay konfuzed."

Well, no. 16x9 full frame would be your full HD frame (since you shot HD).

But if you had a 2k frame, instead of cropping your frame to 16x9, you keep the 2k aspect ratio of the frame size and letterbox it to 1.77:1. Since you are in nothing but 16x9, you will probably only have to deliver 16x9. Hence they say 16x9 Full frame and then 1.77:1 (which would be a 16x9 letterbox within a frame of whatever your aspect ratio is that's beyond 1080 HD).

Make sense?

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