Removing advanced pulldown
by Rick Pratt
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Jun 23, 2008 at 9:57:21 pm
I have an upcoming session where I am to online HD-Cam and some HDV footage onto a 23.98 timeline. The HDV was shot in the 24p advanced mode, and I have been lead to believe that by using the HDV - ProRes 1080 24p Easy setup conversion, the advanced pull down would be removed, leaving me with 23.98 footage. All my attempts haven't worked, as each time I digitize the footage and check the properties, the frame rate is always 29.97. I am working on FCP 6.0.3 and the footage was shot on a Sony A1U. The machine I'm using to digitize is a Sony HVR-1500 connected via firewire to my mac. Aside from choosing the Easy setup, is there something else that I need to do? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Re: Removing advanced pulldown by Kevin Monahan on Jun 24, 2008 at 1:16:37 am
If it is HDV, it should not have advanced pull-down as that's a Panasonic thing, and is usually relates to DVCPro HD. If it's Sony HDV and shot on the A1U, it is 1080i. Read below how CineFrame works.
Special 480P/59.94 progressive mode for enhanced standard definition imagery. CineFrame™ film-type look imaging 24/30 (in HDV-2 1080i, 23.98 recorded as temporally offset interlaced fields with 2:3 pulldown within an overall 29.97 frame rate/59.94 field rate), 25 frame (in HDV-2 1080i/50) or 29.97-frame recording (in HDV-2 1080i/59.94 or standard definition 480i/59.94 or special 480p/29.97) on MiniDV Tape.
Re: Removing advanced pulldown by Rick Pratt on Jun 24, 2008 at 1:48:15 am
Thanks for the info, but what I need is actually a way to get the HDV footage shot in 24p advanced out of 1080i into 23.98. I've been told by the people who shot it that they have done it by using the Easy setup I mentioned, but it doesn't seem to work for me and they don't know why, so I thought I might try here...
Re: Removing advanced pulldown by Jeremy Garchow on Jun 24, 2008 at 2:58:17 am
From what I understand, 24A is different the 24p Advanced when it comes it Sony HDV (as if we needed more confusion).
24p Advanced is available with Panasonic cameras and I think some Canons shoot 24p Advanced but I could be wrong about the Canon.
From not having worked with the format, but working with this forum, 24A in the Sony mode assures that all tape captures start and end on an A frame so that 3:2 pulldown can be removed during capture. In this process you also convert your footage to 1080 psf 23.98 ProRes.
Try using the HDV-Apple ProRes 422 1080p24 easy setup.
As a matter of fact there's a article here on the cow that might help with some of the issues: