I work at a city government facility, so upgrades are few and far between. I try to read up on the trades, but with the lack of upgrades frustration sets in and I don't even want to read about what I can't get yet.
However upgrades are down the road *dancing a jig happy dance*
I'm wondering about Blu Ray.
If we get the latest and greatest FCP package on the latest and greatest Apple (which we're getting the budget for), what do we need to look for in order to make these blu ray ready?
I've also become interested in making the jump to by my own system.
My previous wories were, "I don't want to buy a FCP system and then it become obsolete in a few months when Blu Ray really becomes the norm."
If I got a FCP system now (on my own without the comfort of city budgets), how hard would it be to make sure I could do Blu Ray, and could I?
Does Apple make Blu Ray burners, and is the latest FCP cabable of working with Blu Ray?
Thanks for educating a NOOB! :) I hear that so much, might as well use the word :)
Re: Apple Blu Ray? by Vincent Strader on Jun 23, 2008 at 9:31:43 pm
Should BluRay for event videographers really be a high concern? Should I continue squeezing my wallet and not buying anything until affordable BluRay comes out?
I have nightmares (figuratively speaking) of getting a system then everyone saying, "Oh you don't do BluRay? Well we need BluRuy, BuhBye!" *CLICK*
One person told me that even if I was still doing Standard DVDs that BluRay players were backwards compatible to play all DVDs even HD-DVDs. Is this correct?
And the first person to reply said something about compressing HD down to BluRay. I thought BluRay was higher than HD. Why would HD need to be compressed to BR?
Re: Apple Blu Ray? by Michael Sacci on Jun 23, 2008 at 9:37:53 pm
If you ARE an Event Videographer that needs to give paying clients BluRay disc it should not be hard to purchase the mac system and 3rd party BluRay drive and the Encore. You can be ready to provide BlueRay by tomorrow. Just a one or two jobs should pay for the equipment needed.
So if you have paying clients make the jump now, if you don't you can wait.
Re: Apple Blu Ray? by Vincent Strader on Jun 23, 2008 at 9:41:46 pm
I don't have paying clients yet. That's the fear I have from starting. I still have a full time job so it would not be a super firghtful jump. But I also could not charge 1400 dollars for a wedding video. I would feel guilty for doing so. Even family members I talk to tell me VINNIE JUST DO IT!!! "IF THEY HAVE WEDDINGS HAS BIG AS THEY DO , THEY AREN'T GOING TO MISS 1500 DOLLARS TRUST US!" Talking about some of the ritzier areas here in the Metroplex.
Re: Apple Blu Ray? by Michael Sacci on Jun 23, 2008 at 9:48:41 pm
[Vincent Strader]"But I also could not charge 1400 dollars for a wedding " Then you should not even be thinking about offering HiDef video. I don't do weddings but I would not even think about doing a SD DVD wedding for under $2K Of course I would be doing at least 2 cameras with lav mics and editing. I bet if you did some research the average wedding video is over $2K.
As with anything in the creative world people can always do a crappy job for less money, since I refuse to do crappy work (at least on propose :-) ) I would not try to met non-professionals pricing.
Re: Apple Blu Ray? by walter biscardi on Jun 23, 2008 at 9:55:26 pm
[Vincent Strader]"One person told me that even if I was still doing Standard DVDs that BluRay players were backwards compatible to play all DVDs even HD-DVDs. Is this correct?"
Yes on standard DVD's. No on HD-DVD.
Only invest in BluRay when you absolutely need to, not before. It's an expensive investment. We've already duplicated forty discs for four titles and are about to release a 5 part broadcast HD series on BluRay. Our investment has paid for itself already, but I did not purchase anything until the first client asked me for the service.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.
Re: Apple Blu Ray? by Zane Barker on Jun 24, 2008 at 3:38:44 am
[Vincent Strader]"And the first person to reply said something about compressing HD down to BluRay. I thought BluRay was higher than HD. Why would HD need to be compressed to BR?"
Like Walter said you REALLY need to sit down and do some research and get some basic under standing of things down.
BlueRay is not higher then HD, BlueRay is simply a disk media format like a CD or DVD. BlueRay compares to a DVD like a DVD compares to a CD, it simply just holds more data nothing more then that. It is SIMPLY a disk that holds a lot of data. Because it holds a lot more data then a DVD will, it makes it possible to put a HD movie on to the disk in a format that can be played on a set top player. BlueRay it self is not a video format persay, but a way of delivering your HD video content.
BlueRay is simply a disk that holds data, like a DVD or CD holds data. A BlueRay DVD video is simply a high quality video that is put on to that large capacity disk. And because the disk has a high capacity it is capable of storing a feature length or longer HD video.
There are no "technical solutions" to your "artistic problems".
Don't let technology get in the way of your creativity!
Re: Apple Blu Ray? by walter biscardi on Jun 24, 2008 at 11:41:43 am
[Vincent Strader]"And the first person to reply said something about compressing HD down to BluRay. I thought BluRay was higher than HD. Why would HD need to be compressed to BR?"
2K and 4K are higher than HD. BluRay is a compressed form of HD, just like DVCPro HD and HDV.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.
Re: Apple Blu Ray? by walter biscardi on Jun 23, 2008 at 9:32:35 pm
[Michael Sacci]"To burn to BluRay as data disc you just need a bluray drive and Toast."
And truth be told, you can author a very simple BluRay disc with Toast 9. We use Encore, but if you really want to save some money and just have a very simple need for a playback BluRay disc, it is supposed to work.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.
Re: Apple Blu Ray? by Vincent Strader on Jun 23, 2008 at 9:34:57 pm
I also did not think BR was going to be as expensive as all the past speculation said it might be because there is already a Hitachi DZ-BD7HAF Bluray 5.3MP Camcorder on the market for consumers.
Re: Apple Blu Ray? by Vincent Strader on Jun 23, 2008 at 9:39:00 pm
Adobe Encore is Apple compatible
Adobe FLASH is Apple compatible.
I'm sorry to switch topics, but why did Apple not keep Adobe Premiere? Im I strange in thinking it's strange that all these other Adobe programs work with Apple, but Premiere does not?
I've been making the slow transition from a Windows world to an Apple world. The softwareS IZ all confusingS to me still.
Re: Apple Blu Ray? by Michael Sacci on Jun 23, 2008 at 9:50:56 pm
Premiere is now Apple compatible. It was Adobe that dropped Apple and not the other way around. Adobe brought all of the Creative Suite back to the Mac (there are a couple of the smaller apps that are still only Windows)
Re: Apple Blu Ray? by walter biscardi on Jun 23, 2008 at 9:56:48 pm
[Vincent Strader]"Adobe Encore is Apple compatible
Adobe FLASH is Apple compatible.
I'm sorry to switch topics, but why did Apple not keep Adobe Premiere? Im I strange in thinking it's strange that all these other Adobe programs work with Apple, but Premiere does not?"
Apple never owned Premiere.
Premiere does work on the Mac, has done so for about two years now.
I think you really need to sit down and do some research on what does and does not work on a Mac and definitely what it will entail to produce BluRay discs on your own.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.
