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Exporting for Premiere
by Andrew Gregg on Jun 23, 2008 at 2:56:30 am

I'm just wondering what settings I should use to export for premiere. I've tried the AVI setting under quicktime conversion, but it distorts the image. Is there any other setting I could use?

Thanks for any help.

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Re: Exporting for Premiere
by Andy Mees on Jun 23, 2008 at 5:39:22 am

what format /codec is your original footage ingested as?

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Re: Exporting for Premiere
by Andrew Gregg on Jun 23, 2008 at 6:44:24 am

Hi,

It was originally ingested using the HDCAM EX 1 format. I then moved it to a normal DV timeline in order to crop the size from 16:9 to 4:3.

Cheers.

Andrew Gregg
Director
LiveABC Taiwan

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Re: Exporting for Premiere
by Andy Mees on Jun 23, 2008 at 8:45:37 am

and what is it you want to export to Premiere? the original (16:9) XDCAM EX source clips or the (4:3) DV downconvert?

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Re: Exporting for Premiere
by Andrew Gregg on Jun 23, 2008 at 10:08:47 am

The downconvert. The project's for a company that makes training video software, but it's all in 4:3. I shot in 16:9. They also want consistent titles, so they want those done in premiere. What's weird is that the footage is in 720*480 format, but it's squeezed and changes to 640*480 when it goes into premiere. Is this a premiere issue?

Thanks.

Andrew Gregg
Director
LiveABC Taiwan

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Re: Exporting for Premiere
by Andy Mees on Jun 23, 2008 at 10:40:47 am

how is it when you open your converted AVI file back into FCP? what does it report for its format properties in the clip info (cmd-9)?

what steps are you taking to create the avi exactly? am assuming:
export > using quicktime conversion...
w/ format >avi >> options >> video settings >> compression type > DV/DVCPRO - NTSC

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Re: Exporting for Premiere
by Andrew Gregg on Jun 23, 2008 at 1:30:28 pm

When I import back into final cut pro, it says the settings are 640*480. The image is stretched wide in my timeline, which is set to 720*480. In the premiere timeline (which is also set to 720*480), it's also listed as 640*480, but the image is squeezed in. This is confusing.

I am using

export > using quicktime conversion...
w/ format >avi >> options >> video settings >> compression type > DV/DVCPRO - NTSC

In the final box, I'm selecting 4:3 for the aspect ratio. I suppose that this is the problem, since 640*480 is 4:3. Is there any way to export to 720x480? Or, is there any way to export MPEG-2 at 720*480?

Thanks again.



Andrew Gregg
Director
LiveABC Taiwan

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Re: Exporting for Premiere
by Andrew Gregg on Jun 23, 2008 at 1:33:04 pm

The problem is that I have some telephone conversations shot at DV 720x480 that need to be inter cut with this EX 1 footage. It needs to be at the same aspect ratio in order to cut together.

Andrew Gregg
Director
LiveABC Taiwan

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Re: Exporting for Premiere
by Tom Brooks on Jun 23, 2008 at 1:39:28 pm

I haven't used PRemiere Pro since version 6.0, but it's a Quicktime compatible app, is it not? Can't you set up your project to edit the Apple DV Quicktime files directly?

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Re: Exporting for Premiere
by Andrew Gregg on Jun 23, 2008 at 3:52:48 pm

If it's as simple as this I'm going to be kicking myself for a while. Last time I remembered, Premiere couldn't really handle quicktime files. But that was 1.0. I'll ask around on their forum, and try it out tomorrow at work.

Thanks.

Andrew Gregg
Director
LiveABC Taiwan

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Re: Exporting for Premiere
by Michael Hancock on Jun 23, 2008 at 4:25:30 pm

I believe Premiere is avi based, but it can take a Quicktime. It will just have to render it to play in realtime.

Michael



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Re: Exporting for Premiere
by Andrew Gregg on Jun 25, 2008 at 1:40:55 am

You're right. It took quicktime files without any problem. I don't know where I got it into my head that it couldn't take quicktime files. Thanks for your help.

One thing that has always bugged me though is that when I export a file at 720*480, when I open it in quicktime it's stretched all out of proportion. It's fine when I put it back onto Final Cut though. It seems I have to export at 640*480 to get a normal picture for quicktime. Why is this? Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks for any help.


Andrew Gregg
Director
LiveABC Taiwan

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Re: Exporting for Premiere
by Tom Brooks on Jun 25, 2008 at 2:17:02 am

You are not doing anything wrong. The newest versions of Quicktime Pro can be set to display movies with non-square pixels in different ways. If you export 720x480, try displaying the "Movie Properties", highlight the name of the movie and go to the Presentation tab. There you will find "Conform aperture to..." and select "Production." This should display the movie correctly.

However, if you want to be sure that the movie will display correctly on any computer, it may be best to export as 640x480 with square pixels. It's all about the square and non-square pixels and how they appear on different displays. Computer displays use square pixels. TVs use non-square pixels. You'll find many explanations on the Creative Cow and elsewhere.

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Re: Exporting for Premiere
by Andrew Gregg on Jun 25, 2008 at 3:02:38 am

I'll look into that. Thanks very much.

Andrew Gregg
Director
LiveABC Taiwan

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